The lure of ehu
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but each pitch would need it's own smart meter?
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sorry yes didn't see your post before I posted
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thanks for your post, yes I know I am acting irrationally, I even now only turn the gas on and off when needed for cooking. We had our young kids with us at the time and it just 'got to me'?
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While electricity can give one a bit of a jolt - and I've had quite a few - it is never, in our domestic situation whether home or travelling, any more than 240 volts. It does not leak out over time and build up the amount of energy that can be suddenly expended in the way that gas does.
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you've got the wrong end of the stick, M....its just the 'all you can eat' mentality...and I was confessing to a little of that..
when the leccy is all inclusive, it's easy to leave things on when they're not needed....after all, why worry....you're on holiday (as I'm constantly reminded) chill, leave it all on...you've already paid....
when the leccy is metered, I can assure you this sharpens the mind (wallet) whatever the 'you're on holiday' mantra ists insist.
when one is, in effect, constantly feeding the meter it's a different scenario for sure.
so, in a metered situation, I'll use my cheap gas and free 12v supply.
if the campsite pitch were made sufficiently cheaper for doing it, I'd go non EHU...
but im not going to go on some runt pitch that's the only one without a hook up...If I can choose my pitch, like everyone else and then choose to use or not use EHU I'll choose not use...
but the club's idea of a non EHU option isn't broad enough for folk to take up on a regular basis.
yes, I'll go to odd non facs site, if it's where we want to go, but I want to be able to choose EHU/non (or metres) on all cc sites...
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I don't think I've got the wrong end of the stick at all, BB. In fact what you've just said only reinforces my point.
However, as you know, I have come round to agreeing that the club should offer the option of non EHU (on any pitch) to what I reckon are the relatively small number who want the option.
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what's not to like about gas, it's an efficient fuel...perhaps even you use it in your home, central heating boiler perhaps?
in a van, does gas heat the water any differently than the electric? (apart from doing it faster and more cheaply).....
or the heating, or the kettle?
are gas heated toes any different to electric heated ones?
is tea/coffee somehow different with water boiled in a gas kettle than an electric one?
no, of course has isn't free, but if bought from somewhere other than Calor (at club sites) it's a darn sight cheaper....between a quarter and a third of the Calor price.
similarly, is watching the BBC on TV different when using the vans 12v system than when on the mains?
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If you had bothered to read the original post you would of seen my actual real world completely genuine comparison of costs. Which was the point of the post in the first place.
Im goingaway again for the reasons stated in my previous post.
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in a van, does gas heat the water any differently than the electric? (apart from doing it faster and more cheaply).....
or the heating, or the kettle?
are gas heated toes any different to electric heated ones?
is tea/coffee somehow different with water boiled in a gas kettle than an electric one?
Probably not - but where is the gas equivalent of the electric blanket? And the gas espresso machine?
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That is NOT an espresso machine, that is a caffetteria. Uses much lower pressure. I know, I have one and the flavour is quite different. This is a simple domestic espresso machine:-
The user of the electric blanket has a very low opinion of a hot water bottle based on the impossibility of wraping it around one, or of turning it on in the middle of the night with a timer.
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Ok, but my price per pitch should have been about £150 not £20, so that is 200x100x150 = £ 2,500,000???
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try reading my posts, I did explain
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in a van, does gas heat the water any differently than the electric? (apart from doing it faster and more cheaply).....
or the heating, or the kettle?
BB you do know that heating 1 lire of water by 1 degree C uses the same energy whether from gas or electric? The speed of heating up has nothing to do the fuel used? But how quickly that energy is transferred, ie the appliance used and it wattage. Also gas heating and/or cooking is not as efficient in transferring energy, it loses heat to the surrounding area rather than whatever it is heating. Hold your finger near a gas kettle and you will feel the heat. That is just being wasted on you rather than heating your water. Electric heaters are in contact with the water however and transfer more of the energy, almost 100%. Same with space heating, ever notice the hot air coming from your van's flue?
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we have electric blankets (though not needed here
) which, being low wattage, can run from the inverter/solar system..although we don't use one now, the previous van (like DD) had the coffee machine running from the inverter
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ever noticed how much more quickly the van heats up using gas?
and with gas being far cheaper to source, what's not to like...
of course, if you've paid for it therefore you must use it, and your gas comes in small expensive Calor bottles, electric might suit you...
but perhaps, if you're not paying for a hookup and your gas is a fraction of the price of Calor, gas might suit you...
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It think it is indeed the price of bottled Calor that generates a completely different mindset as to using gas v. using EHU.....
As a rough guide I would say that a Calor 6kg propane is £23, the same amount of LPG propane into our tank would be around £8.50 in the UK at the moment, and if I happen to fill from the local BATA outlet that is actually from a Calor tank too.
It does make you look at paying £3+ per night for EHU in a different light.
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Let's at least get one thing straight, the Club hasn't got 200 sites. At the last count I did it was 155 the rest are affiliated or managed sites over which the Club has no power to change. I put the average site size as below 100, possibly 80 but both estimates are pure guesses. However you estimate it, I agree to fit all the Clubs pitches with meters would be expensive, £2M to £3M but put that in context, that probably only equates to buying one site like Bingham and the Club is sitting on something like £30M in cash reserves.
peedee
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We stick to the old calor! Can't say we go off ehu much in winter but have done it for short breaks and we use very little in the summer off ehu. When calor had to offer free replacements due to a possible problem we did quite well as we had several bottles to exchange, we've done a few years on virtually free gas!
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