Silly site prices. Off season and peak season
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Yes, it’s allowed providing they don’t resell it or more than it costs them.
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I agree. The magazine used to be really for the caravan/motor home folk for years, Now it’s disappointing, I quite liked Centre News with Rally lists. ( We visited some amazing places when belonging to North London Centre years ago... Southwold Denes on the beach in August, Knebworth House, Hatfield House, Broughton Castle, Henley by the River during the Regatta !! happy times) The worst part of the magazine are the pages of terrible adverts ‘We Want Your Caravan’ .... yes they pay for advertising but really, it’s now like some cheap rate paper.
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I'm not sure where the magazine fits into this discussion but you can opt out of receiving it in My Preferences. It saves the effort of putting it in the recycling bin and you can still view it online if you feel the need.
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Having read all recent comments on pricing etc I have to agree with the majority and add my voice of concern of the creeping cost increases across most / all CMC club sites in comparison to good CLs or independents. We are undertaking something of a UK tour next year and I am currently putting our itinerary together and have been shocked at the CMC club site costs for out of season booking - over £40 per night in early Easter and over £50 later in the summer for a motorhome and 2 adults. Good independents and the other club can be a few miles down the road and charge half this and include WiFi which the CMC want £4 a night for!! Not sure I will be renewing my membership if I can reinvest the money in cheaper sites that seem to be just as good!!!
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I think you’ve solved your own dilemma, Rick.
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Re pricing, CAMC is little different to other 'leisure companies' in that the headline (bargain) pricing is often very difficult to achieve. Allowed no doubt, but dubious copy all the same.
the club has myriad changes of prices during a calendar year, I can't remember ever seeing another organisation with such a populated price list.
is there peak and off peak any more? Just scroll to your dates and see. Won't be 'named as such' as there are far more variations than the simple understanding of price lists of yore...low/medium/high. Some lists had been known to include variations of just a few pence...
The fairly simple rule is that there is an R in the month, there will be some raised prices. If there are a Friday and a Saturday in the week there will be some raised prices.
other than that, there's plenty of bargains to be found😉
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Good independents and the other club can be a few miles down the road and charge half this and include WiFi
Although we have found the other club a fair bit cheaper, this is because we are eligible for the Age Related Discount. On the one site we stopped on in summer peak, when it is not available, the price was fractionally higher than the nearest CAMC site. Basically for younger members I don’t think there is a lot of difference and even for us the maximum was £8 a night. £22 a night rather than £30, certainly not half.
However, we have liked all the other clubs sites we have stayed on and when the playing field is levelled by the introduction of deposits by this club, we will almost certain use more.2 -
Rick, if youre happy with CLs, and certainly if your happy with your van's facilities, then the question is what does a club site give you for twice the price?
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Just been reading a post in the Sunday paper, where a business has been quoted 97p a KW hour for their electric. That sort of figure would certainly have a significant effect on site prices going forward. Particularly in the winter months.
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So, time to offer members a non-EHU option an ANY pitch in the network? I've seen club sites advertising non EHU pitches and there might be one or even two!
if inclusive prices are all that's on offer and these are to rise exponentially due to the leccy component then customers will baulk and do something else.
if prices can be maintained at a sensible level by removing the charge for a hook up then this will give customers to opportunity to camp and a price they can afford and the club less empty pitches.
you only have to look at how many vans there are on the C&CC THS sites to see how value is being sought out.
agreed, it's not for everyone (although a night or two stopping over really doesn't require any mods to a van at all...) it gives the club a more attractive price point.
currently, their prices are heading moonward faster than the latest rocket😉
a trial on something like this would be even easier to set up than the ANPR one.
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Evening
The answer BB is in the first five words of your fifth paragraph of your post. In real terms that would equate to 99% of club membership. Just saying.
JK
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That's at the moment, probably because there are so few non-EHU pitches, but should the system change then there could be many more willing to do without EHU and save some money.
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Am I correct in saying that with the CCC you can opt out with EHU? And yet hardly anyone does? Ready to be corrected here.
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It’s not exactly an opt out, Corners. There is an option to book (grass?) pitches without EHU but it costs extra to book a pitch with HS and/or use of the hook up bollard. It’s not possible to have a with lekky pitch but choose not to use the hook up.
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Ok thanks.
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How do you know hardly anyone does?
It is difficult to judge because many sites do not give the opportunity to go without EHU. If the numbers attending the shows (in the thousands per show) is anything to go by there is a large percentage of owners quite happy to do so, I have used quite a few venues this year without EHU when there was the opportunity and I have just booked an off grid CL for my next trip out. I can see this being increasingly desirable when the predicted rise in electricity cost is reflected in pitch prices. I'm expecting another email from the Club any day now annoucing an increase.
If your outfit is equipped with facilities why pay for what you do not need?
peedee
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Peedee ...not only shows but Temporary Holiday Sites which are usually very busy, especially in the good weather we've had.
with no option but to take the full EHU offering, perhaps those customers who don't need/want it are moving to THS type of sites as they can't get the 'value' they seek at CAMC sites. yes, you can have a non EHU pitch with C&CC.
Weve done 13 days over two non EHU THS locations this month. On a typical club site we'd get about 3-4 days for the same cost.
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I think the non EHU movement will grow fast in the future purely as a way to lessen the financial burden which can only be a good thing👍🏻
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We've done three non ehu holidays this year, although we've saved a certain amount cost wise we've done it more for the ambience on these sites. A lot quieter, in good spots, basically just more relaxing than some of the other options and quite pleasant to go back to basics. The good weather in the SW completely synched it! 🌝
We're off to a "proper" site soon but it's also one where no ehu is an option and is also very popular.
The CAMC site format doesn't always appeal to us so we're enjoying other providers.
PS We love non ehu Steamer Quay but we are aware CAMC is itching to upgrade it even though it's so popular!
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I think the good weather bit is the key. Many folk who use CAMC sites also use expensive Calor, or Calor type refills. That might be offset to some extent by the lower prices off peak, but the price is still fairly high for September and two weeks of October half term. Get some colder weather and the fridge and heating will eat up a significant amount of expensive gas, particularly if you want to use your own facilities and also heat water. Anyway realistically what sort of discount is the CAMC going to give? £5 / 6 at most I suspect.
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The C&CC discount is currently £6.50 , the C&MC is much less and is one of the most miserly. I have seen it as much as £10 but if site owners are honest about the future increases, the discounts will get even higher. Those off grid sites and those with meters can just carry on as normal and surely will become more popular? If you hav refillable gas tanks the price is not that bad. I paid 72.9p a litre last Friday.
peedee
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Only by what people who use CCC sites have reported back on here?
I'm not sure if my outfit is but I don't want to go without EHU and live from amp to watt without EHU.
Wasn't your last tour using quite a few club sites btw?
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Wasn't your last tour using quite a few club sites btw?
Of the 14 sites I used , only 4 were Club sites with EHU of course as there was no choice. Of the other 10, 6 were off grid and included two C&CC THSs.
As Steve says the weather was key, I would have probably been forced onto hard standing electric pitches had it been wet.
peedee
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The C&CC discount is currently £6.50 , the C&MC is much less and is one of the most miserly. I have seen it as much as £10 but if site owners are honest about the future increases, the discounts will get even higher. Those off grid sites and those with meters can just carry on as normal and surely will become more popular? If you hav refillable gas tanks the price is not that bad. I paid 72.9p a litre last Friday.
My best estimate of gas used when off grid is 3 litres per day costing about £2.20. It is therefore much cheaper than paying for electricity in the summer months. In the winter there probably isn't a lot of difference.
peedee
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Peedee, I filled my tank after 9 days at Weymouth and used 10 litres. So, I would say just over a litre a day. We used hot water, but have switched to 40 deg in summer which takes no time to get upto and still fine for showers.
fridge on gas but is obviously pretty efficient.0 -
Here’s a sobering statistic for anyone looking to use a Club Site, but do it with the option using a non EHU pitch. I have just checked through all thirteen of Yorkshire’s varied Club Sites, (large, small, coastal, moorland, town and city based. Old and New.)
There isn’t a single non EHU pitch on any of the Sites. So clearly the Club isn’t giving any visitors to Yorkshire, wanting to use a Club Site, any option whatsoever. Everyone books a pitch with a bollard, and you pay the price as though you are hooked up.
(It was a quick check, so if someone else finds such a pitch, (other than a tent pitch) I stand corrected.)
The Club’s current mantra is “you can have a choice, but the choice is ours”
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The going rate here in Cornwall on privately owned sites is something like £4 a day extra if you choose to use the hook up. It’s quite common to be offered the choice. Court Farm near St Austell with 30 pitches is an example.
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