Free WIFI from CCC
Just noticed that the CCC are now offering free WiFi on most of their club sites.
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It would seem to be restricted to hot spots☹️ and of course will have to be covered by the site fee. On various debates on CT in the past, there would seem to be a general reluctance for this method of funding.
"Our Site Wi-Fi network is owned by the Club and powered by Infinium, providing internet access from hotspots across the majority of Club sites. The Site team can advise where the hotspots are at each Club Site."
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How many times have we said there’s no such thing as a free lunch?
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I'm sure there are many CC members who pay £25 a year and can only get away for four weeks or so a year and yet don't get particularly decent service from its wifi....many grumbles on here...
so, for those, it's a pound a night on their site fees for a variable service.
perhaps CCC might only add 50p to pitch fees, or nothing at all, we don't know yet.
do they do lunches, too?
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I do hope the "hot spot" does not include the toilet block or we will never be able to get some people out of it.
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and dont forget the old persons discount on site fees!!!
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I agree, every site I visited last year had free wi fi even though I wasn't actively looking but in this day and age it should be standard. I can't see how people say there is no such thing as a free lunch when it was included and no option not to have it and pitch fees were still same price as before
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agreed, I wonder how much of my €20 is going on the free wifi here...
or the free swimming pools, or the free jacuzzi, or the free games area with table tennis etc,...
standards are being raised all the time and sometimes prices need to be held....unless you move to a menu system, you can't keep putting up prices to cover every improvement...
itll be interesting to see CCC's move (if any) on pricing...if it's hot spots, I don't see them changing prices...
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Agree - and I've just been given an extra 10Gb of data FOC by EE for upgrading to fibre broadband at home and I'm going to struggle to use all my allowance. If I need Wifi on any of our other devices, I just tether them to my phone.
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Same here...not had club wifi for over a year now. Excellent 4g coverage via Virgin and EE with data rollover. Also logs automatically to Wifi hotspots when in range at no extra cost.
And...with 5g coming on line in the not too distant future....the future is looking bright..
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Just for clarity are the C&CC only offering free wifi via a wifi hotspot? Most of their sites offer sit wide wifi, will this remain and be charged for in the usual way? Or do they intend to remove their wifi networks? Clearly a lot easier to restrict the amount of use if a hotspot is the only option compare to a site wide solution.
I do find I am using my phone data more and more (especially now I have discovered a way of it not all disappearing in the first hour of use!) I think I am due to renew my CMC wifi on our next stay so may well consider not bothering until I get to a site without a 4G signal. In a previous discussion on the subject of site wifi I think I put forward the view that data over the mobile network would eventually put in question the investment on site wifi. How close we are to that I don't know but with the upcoming 5G introduction it could further question the need for campsites or even home to have their own wifi systems?
David
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Just for clarity are the C&CC only offering free wifi via a wifi hotspot? Most of their sites offer sit wide wifi, will this remain and be charged for in the usual way? Or do they intend to remove their wifi networks? Clearly a lot easier to restrict the amount of use if a hotspot is the only option compare to a site wide solution.
The C&CC state that existing wifi vouchers are no longer valid so I presume not just restricted to Hotspotd
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why do you see this as being 'free' when all they are doing is increasing the overall service.....for which everyone (including you) have to pay eventually...
surely it's no different to CC or CCC providing more and better services..
some (like serviced pitches) are charged for individually, but all increases, including wifi (or a bonus data batch) have to be financed somewhere...
the trick (to keeping individual costs down) is to be able to benefit from those that aren't charged for seperately/immediately and not to reliant on those that are....
ypuve taken advantage of a 'good deal'.....but they'll try to catch ypu somewhere down the line
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ISTR reading that 5g has a lower range than 4g so will it be the hoped for improvement in coverage, particularly in rural areas which is already pretty dire.
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They are talking about 5G being used in all sorts of driverless vehicles, including lorry trains, in the future to control them so I imagine to do that the network would have to be quite widespread. The Government could insist as a condition of the licence that the networks install a full coverage. Having said all that the 4G coverage is pretty good I have found and that should be enough for general browsing and email.
David
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I agree with the second paragraph above entirely. My expereince of the WiFi on club sites was absolutely woeful; I mean realy, really terrible. Then I realised I could use my phone tethered to my laptop, and I have never l;ooked back. I have a contract with ample data so in effect there is no additional cost. I am sure there are some sites not covered by 4G but so far I have been fortunate not to find one. The speed I get is way better than anything i ever had from club WiFi.
I have found 4G to be more than adequte including streaming so definitely better than David implies above. Having said that, future technology will be such that WiFi on club sites will go the same way as phone boxes did. Irrelevant and redundant.
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Perhaps I'm a bit old school (pun intended and rhetorical) but I often wonder about this free wi-fi thing. Was in York yesterday and all the cafes and eating places all had large signs proclaiming free wi-fi. Do people really base where to go to eat on this?
Likewise I've seen local buses with free wi-fi in big letters on the outside as somehow it's a big selling point for that bus route? Do people choose a bus based on this or if it takes you to where you want to be?
So the same with sites (club or not) for me it is location first and foremost then the standard of the site (of course for club sites you don't have to worry about that
). Do some base their site choice on free wifi?I suppose if it was there I would use it but my mobile data is more than enough.
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I don’t think any public Wi-fi network is secure whether free or not. I’d certainly be careful what I used them for.
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you are correct public Wi-Fi networks are not normally secure and that is why if you are going to do things like on-line banking you should use VPN type software. For the last 4 years of my working life, i worked from home as a consultant to the satellite/oil/gas industry and quite often we would go away in the caravan and i worked from the caravan so Wi-Fi was very important, today we have good things like tethering to your phone etc, but if you should be self employed etc and not wanting to be out of contact for long periods then I am sure even today Wi-Fi on the site is of prime importance as not all sites have good mobile phone coverage, horses for courses, whether it should be free or not is debatable, some of the club sites were so poor, i thought it was an insult to charge, but thankfully now i dont need it, so dont really care whether sites charge or not, or whether they have it for that matter
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Depends what you mean by secure. By definition a public network is not secure in that anyone can sign on but is this a problem? Well if your machine is not protected it could be hacked but that is always true unless you have firewall settings to stop it. Traffic could be seen but banking for example would be a https conversation i.e. encrypted. Sites you are using could be seen so as the saying goes “if you wouldn’t want it publicised on the front page, don’t do it”. I can’t find a lot of VERIFIED occasions of public network hacking leading to banking or e-commerce loss. Certainly some banks have just given up usage of add on security software. So on balance I think it’s not a major problem
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Oh and a vpn is only secure between you and the vpn server. if the traffic goes over a public link after that it is on the internet. This has some advantages but isn’t a total cure.
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I noticed that Natwest have given up on their suggested extra security package. This seems strange as a few years ago they proved unhelpful to a customer who was defrauded of some money because she did not have the extra security loaded on her computer!!! I now tend to use smart phone apps to check banking when away in the motorhome rather than WiFi. Perhaps pointing out the obvious but we should all have some form of internet security on our devices to give an extra layer of security.
David
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