Certificate of Conformity confusion
According to Certificate of Conformity for my car the "Mass in Running Order" (Mass in Service) is 1480kg. (No. 13. on the certificate)
The "Maximum Laden Mass of the vehicle" is 2005kg (No. 16.1 on the certificate)
There is another figure on the certificate for "The Actual Mass of the vehicle" 1608kg (No. 13.2 on the certificate)
The difference between the mass in running order and actual mass is 128kg. The 13.2 figure does not feature on the V5C. Does anyone know what the difference is between mass in running order and actual mass? I cannot find a definition for Actual Mass and 128kg seems an unusual figure. Confused!
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Mass in Running Order is the weight of the car in basic configuration without any factory fitted options over and above what the manufacturer deemed to be standard equipment for the purpose of type approval. Actual mass, as the name implies, includes all the factory fitted options on your particular car and is the figure that comes closest to kerbweight.
Mass in Running Order is a bit abstract and doesn’t really reflect actual conditions. It is almost invariably less than the actual weight, hence the difference of 128kg.
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Thank you for your reply. So, I take it from that I should use the actual mass figure when working out towing figures? I am going to get the vehicle weighed for peace of mind anyway.
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Many thanks for your help.
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After reading a lot of posts on here and other sites it can be quite confusing to a novice when it comes to weights. There seem to be a lot of different terminology involved and also what is included in the weights (full tank/half tank/driver weight included or not.) When working out towing weights on outfit matching sites the kerb weight figure used for my car, a 2016 Nissan Qashqai 1.6dci auto, is 1505kg (give or take depending on model.The model I have is rare and not included on uk websites) Max towing weight 1400kg. I asked on here if anyone knew what the difference was in mass in running order and actual mass. In my case an increase of 128kg. taking the weight up to 1608kg. As there seems to be a lot of emphasis placed on the 85% guide I wanted to get the formula right. A few pounds spent on a weighbridge check would just be for peace of mind, would give me the exact weight of the car and I would also know exactly which figure to use given the advice from earlier in the thread.
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Thank you "Metheven" I see a lot is made of the weight of the caravan and several times I have seen posts and youtube videos reccomending that they be taken to get them weighed, so it seems to me that if you are going to do that then why not the car as well. I know that you could take them both at the same time and do it in one visit but not when you are working out what weight van you can buy. Thanks to the posts on here I am now sure and confident about how much I can pull!
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Lutz - after reading this thread and your last posting, I decided to ask VW for the Certificate of Conformity for my 2017 Tiguan SEL190 DSG 4motion. Its all in German, but from the thread, I found that -
Item 13 - Mass in Service is quoted as 1723kg
Item 13.2 - Actual Mass is quoted as 1870kg
Assuming that the drivers weight used within the 1870kg figure is 75kg, this suggests that with the factory fitted extras (including towbar), my car actually weighs 1795kg as delivered?
My car does not have any weight figures displayed on a sticker or plate attached to the vehicle, but the V5 shows 1723Kg as Mass in Service, so if I came across a DVSA check whilst towing, which figures would the authorities use for the car, or are these irrelevent, as they would check the front and rear axle loads?
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If the DVLA were checking the car, it is the Maximum Laden Weight they would be checking as the lower figures are irrelevant to them. It is illegal to exceed this figure. There will also be an axle weight limit that should not be exceeded.
The towing guide suggests 65 kg be added to the actual mass to get the kerb weight, but it is probably more sensible to simply use your own weight if this is significantly different.
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