Why not abroad?

Swifty2018
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edited March 2018 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

Apologies for asking this question elsewhere so as suggested I have reposted here.  embarassed

Just interested, but why do some people choose not to tour abroad, is it the fear of driving on the right or just xenophobia. It can't be the distances involved as some on here seem to drive very long distances to the opposite ends of the country.

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  • huskydog
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    edited March 2018 #2

    Haven't got a passport...............yetsurprised

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2018 #3

    I have driven in Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium, Germany, Poland as well as on half a dozen European Islands. We however have a preference for Spanish, Greek Islands and Malta and consider towing impractical therefore but often hire a car. We generally opt for a self catering apartment and mainly eat out.

    Need to renew my passport as well as it is 4 years out of date and we have not been abroad for the last 5 years. I was just saying yesterday to Fliss (my good lady) that we must renew our passports as my joints crave some heat this time of year. 

    Our next UK caravan tour starts in 4 weeks time and we will spend around 4 months in the caravan this year. Probably hop a plane abroad end of October for a warm. 

     

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2018 #5

    If we lived nearer a port to Europe it might be more tempting, but I hate ferries, and it's a long way and down the most congested roads in U.K. to get to Chunnel, so that's one deterrent for me. Main one is dogs, we always tour with dogs, they have to be monitored for overheating in this country at times, so Southern Europe would be hell on Earth for them.

    OH has done proper Spain, up into mountains, did all driving for his group of mountaineering friends, didn't find it a problem driving on other side. I have done Greece and Islands a few times, again not a problem. But wouldn't subject our dogs to that, rather enjoy the beauty of UK in relaxation, no hassle.

  • Swifty2018
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    edited March 2018 #6

    Is that a Pet Passport?

  • Metheven
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    edited March 2018 #7

    I do tour abroad for 10-12 weeks annually, but as the question is not directed at me I will shut up laughing

    But I also tour in the UK, I enjoy and do both smile

  • JayEss
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    edited March 2018 #8
    1. Travelling would reduce a fortnight holiday to ten days at best. We still work and two weeks is a luxury. More would be impossible 
    2. Prefer flying and hotels/apartments to caravans
    3. Dont want to 
    4. Site fees too expensive when we would travel. 

    We bought the caravan to see more of the U.K. and to use at festivals. That's still what we use it for. The worst holidays I ever had as a child were when we dragged a caravan over to France. We might consider glamping in the future but we'd fly and hire a car. However I'd still prefer to stay in a hotel. 

  • hitchglitch
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    edited March 2018 #9

    Perhaps some people like rain?

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  • Swifty2018
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    edited March 2018 #11

    I fully understand that if you are still working and/or limited to July/August then it is a long way/ expensive for a two week holiday. The question was really directed at the retired section who obviously have more time and flexibility to explore Europe.

    Maybe some people do prefer rain and cloud!

    Edit - posted simultaneously with previous answer from AD

  • Takethedogalong
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    To be absolutely honest hg, I would find Wall to Wall sunshine, all day, every day utterly boring. But I know that Europe isn't like that, as we have experienced some spectacular rainfall while on Continent. Likewise, we have enjoyed a month of complete dry, with lots of sunshine many a time down in Cornwall, and elsewhere in UK. I don't actually mind a bit of diverse weather, because I enjoy doing all sorts of things on holiday, and the cloud and cool sometimes make choices easier over a day on the beach. laughing

  • JayEss
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    edited March 2018 #13

    We're definitely not in your target group for the question as we are highly unlikely to be caravanning in retirement and probably won't replace this one. laughing

     

     

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  • huskydog
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    edited March 2018 #15

    The extra cost has to be a big factor why some don't go overseas for a short break , for example for me to have a week in Normandy would cost about an extra £350 compared to a week in Dorset ,which is about the about the same distance to drive , so anyone on a limited income would have to think twice about going ,even if everything over there was so much "better" (different)..........................

  • Justus2
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    edited March 2018 #16

    When we were working we did.... We went to France several times. Now that we are  retired, and our income has halved its going to be a rare event if not non existent for a good while. We also have commitments now both with grandchildren and aged mothers. However, we did fit in a trip to Ireland last year.... the cost of the ferry & recovery insurance for the 3 weeks was £450 which more or less doubled the price compared to staying in the UK for the 3 weeks.  frown

  • brue
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    edited March 2018 #18

    Same here TW.

    Here's Swifty's opening post about travel.

    see here

    Happy holidays wherever you take them Swifty, near or far, it doesn't matter to me.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2018 #19

    Perhaps he hasn't picked up quite enough tips yet, Brue. Like how not to antagonise people. wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2018 #20

    For me 'over there' has to mean sun and lots of it and maybe because of the heat doing very little, it is a different way of holidaying from over here, usually sitting by a pool with an (all inclusive) pool bar. If we want to see a city or area it's usually done in cooler months from a hotel.

    Either way I see no fun or advantage in driving two three days to get all that. I like to take a plane, sit read eat in more comfort than a car (either driving or as a passenger) and do it in the shortest time possible.

    Travelling to places by driving abroad is lost time to me personally. I know there are people who think the journey is part of the holiday and that’s great for them, but it’s not for me and one motorway looks pretty much like another to me whatever the country.

     

    Seems from the above that time of travelling getting there and cost seems to be the main reasons?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2018 #21

    No I found it offensive as well. Either one or the other just had to be the only reasons? 

    Also to accuse that all those that don't tour (by caravan or MH) abroad are xenophobic (dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries) seems ridiculous at best.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2018 #22

    I chose not to be offended but could understand why offence might have been caused by the OP.

     

    A big factor in my ownership of a caravan within the UK is that I detest hotels generally. I prefer my own space and self catering suits me. For a  short period when I was without a caravan me and OH would use a series of apartments, cottages etc in the UK. It is not that easy to obtain a series of back to back bookings for such on a touring route when wanting to stay only a few days at each. 

     

  • moulesy
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    edited March 2018 #23

    I guess many of that "retired section", like us did a lot of touring, in our case, camping, in Europe in our younger days. It was an affordable way to have what seemed like an exotic adventure of a holiday, particularly since we were restricted to the most expensive times of year, school holidays.

    Now, after the best part of 40 years working and saving we are in the fortunate position of being able to afford a different sort of holiday abroad, so we choose to stay in hotels and either hire a car or go on organised tours. We can also choose to go further afield for that sort of holiday, Mauritius and Costa Rica in the last two years and a cruise to Alaska before that.

    But we wouldn't,  in fact couldn't,  be away from home for more than a couple of weeks at a time, so with the van we tour in the UK.

    Nothing to do with xenophobia or fear of driving on the right, just down to practicalities and personal choice. smile

  • brue
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    edited March 2018 #24

    I think he has.....uncanny is the word.  wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2018 #25

    You have asked for our reasons and we have answered, yet your post still has an element of disbelief in it as if you can't understand why we don't.  

    Maybe some people do prefer rain and cloud!  Why did you say that?

    Some of us, including myself, have said we do explore Europe (and beyond in my case) we just do it without a caravan or MH

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited March 2018 #27

    Holidays other than UK are Hotel based with Hire car as part of the package. I like my none UK hols to be luxurious👍🏻

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2018 #28

    Yep, I’m with you! 

    I was slow this time - I usually get him first or second post. wink

     

     

  • flatcoat
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    edited March 2018 #29

    Our experience of such conversations has identified 2 schools of thought. Too many people cannot get beyond Spain or France when it comes to ‘abroad’, Italy if they are adventurous but mention Germany, Austria, Hungary and they think we have lost the plot. And as for driving abroad, that is simply beyond the pale and to be honest if they are so scared of driving on t’other side then perhaps it Is better they don’t. A colleague is so risk averse his first Caravan trip abroad this year is limited to a one hour drive from Rotterdam to a site from where they will only use public transport if/when they go anywhere. Why bother? 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2018 #31

    That’s not like you at all, FC.frown