Changing tow car this year

1Tracey1
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edited January 2018 in Towcars & Towing #1

Morning all. Currently have a ssangyong diesel which we due to change this year -3years old. Don't know what to do 're the petrol/diesel debate'. I know changes aren't till 2040 but obviously there are consumer confidence issues with diesal which could affect trade in price. Wondered what people who regularly change there car and are due to do so this year were planning on doing.

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  • lornalou1
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    edited January 2018 #2

    STICK WITH DIESEL.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2018 #3

    what weight of tow car do you need for your caravan? Are there petrol cars that have this? or if you get a petrol engine it may mean you end paying more for fuel when towing?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2018 #4

    As Corners said, it depends very much what you need from a towcar but, personally, I would agree with LL's shout as you can't beat a diesel with plenty of grunt for towing.

    A diesel might depreciate quite considerably but I suspect a big engine petrol car will as well as it won't be popular in the second hand market.

  • flatcoat
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    edited January 2018 #5

    Unless your car has done space travel mileage I would keep it another couple of years. By then the current anti diesel hype will be old news and the market will have settled down. Plus, selling a car at 3 years is the worse time to sell for depreciation which is THE biggest cost of any car. If you really must change I would stick with diesel but there are too many variables to consider for which you need to provide to get better advice. 

  • markmacd
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    edited January 2018 #6

    I had an Antara and just traded in for a Jeep. Both diesal.  

    Get a pre -reg if you are changing. Save you stacks as you will not take the initial hit as you do when buying brand new. 

    Cars depreciate whether they are diesal or petrol, so not really a big concern for me. 

     

  • lornalou1
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    edited January 2018 #7

    nice to hear from you markmacd. please go to your own post Jeep Grand Cherokee as would love to hear about your new motor.

  • scratchgolfer
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    edited January 2018 #8

    Log burner with auto box every time for me

  • geoffeales
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    edited January 2018 #9

    I did loads of research last year when considering a change, as above I agree there's nothing better than a diesel for towing. New diesel sales are falling and that will surely reflect on future trade-in value, but bear in mind the petrol's days are numbered too and at the moment the hybrids are very pricey and not that "torky". So my advice is to wait as long as possible and see what comes up. I did that and whilst my old Tucson was having (another) £500 spent on it, I saw a C4 Picasso on the forecourt, very low mileage and very reasonable price - and he made me an extremely generous offer for the Tucson, so bingo, after all that I have another diesel!  The Picasso has a 6 speed semi-auto box which takes a little getting used to but I took the van for a test run last week and it pulls extremely well, considering it's only 1,6. Less road tax, less insurance and more mpg - happy days!

  • Tigi
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    edited January 2018 #10

    Even if you buy the latest hybrid today, you can bet your life when people start to appreciate the loss of efficiency in a battery after three years and cost of replacing said battery depreciation will kick in. Stick with diesel for towing until the new fangled ideas are proven!

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2018 #11

    A euro 6 diesel is a lot cleaner than petrol which has caused a 14% rise in CO2 polution since the Gov "decided" to ban diesels,

    Ps stick with what you have as at 3yrs its the biggest "hit" when changing

  • Scottie2
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    edited February 2018 #12

    Hi 1Tracey1,...My choice was a “15” plate mk5 Mondeo tdci Zetec 150 Eco 1997cc hatch....Road tax £20....easy service costs...6 speed manual and towing a Swift Challenger Sport 524SR...Absolutely excellent economy, torque and comfy roomy car...Never regretted it.

  • 1Tracey1
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    edited March 2018 #13

    Thank you for your comments everyone.  We are going to stick with diesel and are off shopping this weekend for trade in prices. :)

     

  • KeefySher
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    edited March 2018 #14

    If diesels are depreciating like a lead balloon as the media says, why is that not reflected in the second hand prices on main dealer forecourts?

    Why are the first price quoted not considerably lower than list?

    Why has the report on the levels of petrol NOX not hit the media yet?

    Why are people buying new cars when 'borrowing' them via a 'finance' deal is a sensible option. So much per month, mileage to suit your needs, servicing, insurance, VED and at a given point hand it back and get a new one. Or if intent on buying, use the finance to get the 'purchase' price down, pay the first payment then clear the balance removing the interest. New car buying is no longer a cash is king transaction.

    My current and last tow cars, Mercedes S Klasse and GLE are the same per month. Both were 25% off the list price by playing the game of when to buy and taking the various incentives available. At a given point they go back and get another new car. btw both are 3litre V6 diesels with auto boxes, and decent kerb weight. Burn that oil cool

    Lots of deals out there currently. eg Honda CRV that gets good press re towing £0 deposit, 0% finance. It's a buyers market.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2018 #15

    careful of the 0% interest rates, it is certainly easy, especially if you trade in and that's why people do it but it is a sort of con, you end up paying more overall. They are not done for you, it's to make more money for others. Dealers are not charities.  

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2018 #16

    you may have already done this but try carwow.co.uk before you go . You set up your car and then dealers will send you their 'best' price. Some maybe be near some far but even if you don't use them you can use the figures as a guide for other dealers.

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2018 #17

    If you regularly travel on the continent petrol will certainly cost you a lot more. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2018 #18

    Why are people buying new cars when 'borrowing' them via a 'finance' deal is a sensible option.”

    Sensible for who? The dealers and finance houses, certainly. Why else would they all be so keen to push these deals?

    Not everyone wants the faff of paying monthly and many would rather haggle a good deal - and very good deals can be done, stump up the cash and drive off. No worrying about whether future payments can be met either. 

    Whilst these finance deals might suit some, let’s not pretend they’re best for everyone. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2018 #19

    when I travel on the continent I leave that to the airline to worry aboutsmile

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2018 #20

    re the 0% interest con, look at these:

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=0+interest+car+loans

    Not all finance deals are bad, my daughter when buying her car last year had the cash but took but the finance deal (well took out the minimum fiance and min repayment period) as it gave her a free 5 year warranty, which she wanted anyway (important point) and when we did the sums, which we did right in front of the salesman (which they don't like as I've seen on some videos on buying cars) she was better off by £200. If she had taken what they wanted her to take out and over their period they suggested she would have lost out by about £600. So do you sums.

  • lornalou1
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    edited March 2018 #21

    what was the call to all the 4x4 drivers when the snow was about and stopping nurses/doctors/carers from getting to work please help as we need you. even HGV's were being pulled out by the diesel 4x4's. what would this country do without us. bet all those moaners who call diesels didn't refuse a lift from one.

  • flatcoat
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    edited March 2018 #22

    Many finance deals give significant deposit contributions so do the numbers before dismissing finance. We got £1500 additional discount on a new Seat Arona last November that was only available with finance, As long as you run the loan for 6 months you can then pay it off. My ‘ex’ was in the trade so have a bit of inside knowledge and can assure that cash purchase does nothing to sweeten the deal these days. 

    Personally I wouldn’t be changing a 3 year old car, only just run-in and just think of all that depreciation you have just spent (wasted) money on. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2018 #23

    yes because they (the dealer) can make more profit through the finance part. 

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  • flatcoat
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    edited March 2018 #25

    I drive a 4x4 estate because you do not need a full fat SUV just to have 4wd traction. I love driving my sons Cayenne and his partners Evoque but have no desire to own one. I prefer the Audi Allroad approach (albeit I have a Passat Alltrack).

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2018 #26

    We tend to let the trains use their fuel when going "over there"