Putting up flag Degrading our Club Sites

Banff
Banff Forum Participant Posts: 108
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edited April 2019 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Putting up these childish flags with football clubs etc on are degrading our lovely sites plus not to mention the noise of the flapping around in the wind, why on earth does the club allow them  has there are nothing but an high sore why don't people just grow up , also the flashing lights on awnings that just annoys the caravan next to them 

have some respect people 

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  • huskydog
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    edited August 2017 #4

    oh yes the Fiatwink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2017 #5

    More nice posts in the other thread. 

  • Flossiedog
    Flossiedog Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited August 2017 #7

    I am not a fan of flags being flown but life is far too short to let it worry me.

  • Apperley
    Apperley Forum Participant Posts: 254
    edited August 2017 #9

    Nothing wrong with flags, live and let live. I have two Yorkshire 'desk' flags on my dashboard. County flags, it's what makes us British.

     

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited August 2017 #10

    Cannot see the need

  • huskydog
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    edited August 2017 #11

    But some people can 

  • Si Jo Tom and Ems
    Si Jo Tom and Ems Forum Participant Posts: 58
    edited August 2017 #12

    Isn't a degree of tolerance required? I mean if i was so inclined I could surely find something that anoys me about how others have set up on site, or parked or whatever. The flag debate appeared in the Club mag once, and there were many good reasons for then being used. We have fun ones. The kids love them. They are fun, I haven't seen one yet making any kind of statement. I would celebrate the differences with the Club and go with the flow. 

  • engineman1947
    engineman1947 Forum Participant Posts: 7
    edited September 2017 #13

    We are all different, in our quests for enjoyment in life, that's what makes the world go round. One of the joy of having a caravan is, you can always movecool

  • Kennine
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    edited September 2017 #14

    I see nothing wrong with Campers flying flags which indicate their country of residence. 

    France, Germany, Italy, Wales, Ireland both North and South, Scotland,  England both North and South. United States both North and South.

    Others I personally don't care for, but live and let live is my motto. 

  • Metheven
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    edited September 2017 #15

    I fly my small EU flag on the front of the caravan when pitched, both here and abroad laughing Certainly a conversation starter innocent

  • eurortraveller
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    edited September 2017 #16

    I was invited to a local rally and was told that the Flag Officer would welcome me to his Flag. It seems a bit mean if I can't have a Flag as well. Let's all have one. 

  • Goldie146
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    edited September 2017 #17

    Pros - they show the wind strength and direction. 

    Cons - noisy flapping.

     

  • kdee69
    kdee69 Forum Participant Posts: 226
    edited September 2017 #18

    I'm sorry, can someone explain why a flag "degrades" a Club site?

    A bit lengthy but worth a read....

    WHAT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF A FLAG?

     

    The origins of flags lies in ancient history. Originally they may have been simply decorative streamers, or perhaps ceremonial images. They were superior to many other emblems: cheap and simple to make; easy to carry and display; and attracting attention with their lifelike movement in the wind.

    Flags came to symbolise variously leaders, communities, gods, merchant and craft guilds, ships, and towns. A flag often gained the same respect as was accorded to the person or thing which it represented. In battle, the loss of a flag was a severe blow. The capture of the opponents flag might be the turning point in a battle. Flags often bore religious symbols, and were used in religious as well as state occasions.

    The modern national flag arose in the seventeenth century, with the creation of the first modern states. Before that most countries had only had the flag of the rulers. Some modern national flags are even now used only by the government and military, with a different flag (a civil flag) used by the people.

    A flag represents an idea, or an ideal. It is neither a mere piece of decoration, nor an object to be honoured for itself. It is honoured for what it represents. Many flags are held in high esteem for their history; for the sacrifices made by the people; for the qualities for which the country and people stand.

    Such respect does not depend on the aesthetic appeal of the design, or on it attempting to represent visually the people or politics of a country. If it represent anything tangible, a national flags generally symbolises the unchanging characteristics of a nation. These can include the geographical location, or perhaps a distinctive physical feature, historical foundation, or (to a lesser degree) the constitutional structure. In democracies they do not generally represent political affiliations.

    Respect for the flag is one indication of patriotism. Public dishonouring of the flag is regarded as an extreme form of dissent in most countries, and punished accordingly. Some countries, notably including the USA, make the public affirmation of loyalty to the flag and the country a civic duty. New Zealanders have not regularly honoured the flag in public ceremonies since the 1950’s.

    To fly the national flag is a sign of pride and patriotism. It a positive affirmation of loyalty and commitment. It marks out a country that has confidence in itself, and is comfortable with its place in the world, its history and its future.

  • JayEss
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    edited September 2017 #19

    I fly my flag (not country of residence wink) when I'm at festivals and it also has lights (solar) to help me find the van at night. 

    I don't normally bother on a club site but I remembered this thread while I was away and bought a longer flagpole for future club site use. 

     

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  • Navigateur
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    edited September 2017 #21

    In case this thread is read in isolation by newcomers to the forum, it is worth mentioning that for some people a distinctive flag is a necessity in finding their way back to their caravan without assistance. Not all disabilities are highly visible.

     

  • Kennine
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    edited September 2017 #22

    Just like they do on  CMC rallys ?

    wink

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2017 #23

    Colours Sir .....

    Make it so ..... cool

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  • tigerfish
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    edited September 2017 #25

    I agree In principle with DD over this one. I fly the Falkland Islands flag over my caravan, and it always comes down at Sunset.  I would like to suggest that it goes up at dawn but in reality it's probably about breakfast time!

    The added bonus is that as few people recognise the Flag of the Falkland Islands, it does attract questions as to its origin most of which lead to pleasant conversations .Often over a glass of wine!

    For those who don't know. The flag is similar to the Blue Ensign, with the depiction of a sheep being lifted in a strop in the Centre, Over the Words "Desire the Right".

    I lost friends there in 1982 and will not forget.

     

    TF

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited September 2017 #26
  • GodivaNige
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    edited September 2017 #27

    The sight of a flag being raised on a site makes my wife chuckle. Not because she finds the act amusing, but more the fact that I always mutter the phrase...'Grow Up!' 

    c'mon, for Boy Scouts, it possibly a fun thing to do but for 'grown ups' it's all a bit... 'hey, look at me!'

     

    Yes it's harmless, but as the OP points out, childish too.

    Not cool, sorry

    As for flags being a useful guide for children to find their way back to their temporary base, if they can master an iPad in minutes without an instruction book I'm fairly sure they can remember where their family caravan is parked.

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited September 2017 #29

    Whereas dragging a Caravan around the Country is really screaming-'I'm sooooo cool'laughinglaughinglaughing

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2017 #30

    Why "grow up"?

    Even adults are allowed a bit of fun. Try it. cool

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