Arrival Times
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Ok sorry
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there are plenty of apps that show you your position and the amount of sun and its arc around you try and you can zoom in on your position.
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Not necessarily so as there are bound to be many members who have not travelled "over there" but are looking in that section to find out details for a possible future visit, so it would be good to make those sort of occurrences known.
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That's a usefull little tool.
Do you know of something that can take the length and direction of the shadows on the aerial views on Google maps or the Ordnance Survey and work out the height of the trees? Other than Boy Scout learning from a previous century.
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It wasn't about me, but there will certainly be other members to whom it will be of assistance. Perhaps you could post a few examples and a Mod could then make it a sticky so these newer "over there" travellers could then put their individual questions.
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What a great constructive idea, Nellie. It would all be in one place then.👍🏻👍🏻
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I have some sympathy with FB. Arrival times whether 12 or 1 o'clock should be enforced. From a recent tour, it’s a joke. If the Club is not going to enforce them then they may as well abandon them. The latter course of action would be a far more sensible approach where there are not problems of access.
peedee
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Totally agree. We don't use a lot of Club sites, but have seen very early arrivals too. IMHO there should be consistency in enforcing arrival times, which there isn't; we arrived on 1 site a few years ago at 11.50, and were made to wait until 12, I have no problem with that. Yet on another site there were new arrivals before 10.30 and were booked in. Totally inconsistent.
As you say, why stick with the earliest arrival times? If they were abandoned, there would be staggered arrivals, instead of the queues and mad scramble for the "best pitches" we've seen many times.
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InaD - I agree to some extent and I've said many times in the past that where there are no access difficulties the club could relax it's arrival/departure rules, particularly out of peak times. It could be argued of course that early arrivals penalise themselves because they have a lesser choice of pitches.
But, let's be clear, it's not exclusively a club situation - look at virtually any site (over here) and they will state an earliest arrival time.
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But, let's be clear, it's not exclusively a club situation - look at virtually any site (over here) and they will state an earliest arrival time.
Yes but as far as I am aware it is enforced? Certainly the C&CC tried to enforce it by insisting early arrivals paid for the extra day. It didn't work for what ever reason but as far as I know their 1pm arrival time is consistant across their network.
peedee
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Hands up time, I did arrive at Slinfold club site at just gone 12 when earliest time is 1pm. Warden was happy to book me in but as all pitches were allocated by the wardens I don’t think it mattered to much. I don’t like pitch allocation so won’t be staying there again
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Every year we use a commercial site in Norfolk (big meet up with non members and ccc members) the earliest arrival time is 1400 hrs and you must be off by 1000 on dep day, but the admin staff have advised us to ring on the arrival day, then depending on staffing levels and workload it could be possible to arrive earlier
it is the same with departures it depends on what is happening on the day if a later departure is possible,
and It is the same with the cc ,and i understand that site staff have been "advised" by EGH if possible (as the commercial site) to be flexible when it comes to arrival and dep times,and i think if JK is around he may be able to clarify this
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We were at Sandringham cc site earlier this year and to get my ccc updated ,walked round to the ccc site at about 1230 and the queue was out the past the entrance,with others trying to leave but were"blocked in"and as speaking to the site manager she said it is a real problem with the 1300 earliest arrival times,and having to take each unit to a pitch really slowed down the booking in procedure(and they use their own cycles to take them )but their HO as it seems EGH ,do not really understand the members requirements these days
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Due to various traffic factors not impinging on the journey, and a lack of lay-bys, I arrived at a Club site at 11:40 and thought I'll just wait untill noon to approach the office. By 11:45 the warden had come out of the office to ask whether everything was all right as I hadn't come in to pay!
And the outfit wasn't blocking the entrance as it's three wide plus the exit.
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as Ina says, folk left to their own devices will naturally arrive at different times, making the flow at the gate a trickle not a bow wave.
similarly, those leaving the site do so at different times...some have short trips and leave late (to avoid arriving early at the next site
) while some have a long way to go and leave early....the resulting ebb and flow will offer a good 'fit' with those leaving providing spaces for those arriving....(I've seen it so many times in places to be named in another 'section of the forum')...without causing parking or site navigating issues.
of course, one main difference is that a typical cc site won't have any staff around to provide this flexibility as they will be cleaning toilets until 12....
so, while we continue with the tail wagging the dog (staff/rota systems dictating to customers when they can arrive) a fixed time bow wave arrival system is all that can be managed, along with the associated issues that get aired here so regularly...
like a lot of others, we are using less and less club sites and (for our time in the uk) using THS and CL/CS sites along with the odd commercial (usually open to being able to get in a pitch or leave the van somewhere if our arrival time is likely to be 'early').
for two thirds of our touring year we don't even consider these issues.
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A commercial site in Cornwall which begins with " Can I choose a specific pitch? Yes you can" ...then goes on to say "Our security barriers are open from 0630 until midnight and between those hours you can park on our visitors car park and walk to your pitch. You are welcome to check in at reception from 0900 on the day of arrival and we aim to get all pitches prepared for you to pitch up by1230 at the latest " . By the sound of the comments they get it seems to please people.
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Not so, PD. We recently stayed at Kingsbury Water Park C&CC site. As we were ahead of schedule I parked up and rang the site to ask what the situation was and was invited to come in anyway, arriving at about 12:40. But if they'd said no, I'd have just accepted it.
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You've quoted that before, et. Presumably the "visitors parking area", doubles up as a "holding area". Many holiday camp sites in Cornwall have exactly such a dedicated area. Not many (if any) club sites have that luxury. But I can't just remember the name of the site - perhaps you could remind us?
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no admittance for vehicles midnight to six am ,great idea (like some cc sites Alderstead come to mind as one,and hope to have pitches ready by 1230 bit like club sites then ,must have a big arrivals/car park then or not as busy as a lot of cc sites
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Naming it would get the post Deleted User for advertising - we were told that last week, weren't we.
But it's a site where the office is staffed from 0900 and outfits are moved in one by one as pitches become available - the very point BB was making earlier.
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I've remembered, et, it was Polmanter near St Ives (and what about their prices!
). As before you've been a little selective with your quote, haven'the you? For the benefit of others, here is the full quote:"Our security barriers are open from 06:30 until midnight. Between these hours, you can park in the visitors’ car park and walk to your pitch. You are welcome to check in at Reception from 9am on the day of arrival, and we aim to get all pitches prepared for you to pitch up by 12.30pm at the latest. To help us with this, we ask that you vacate your pitch by 11am on the day of your departure. If you decide to travel overnight to beat the traffic, and arrive in the early hours of the morning, there’s a special late night area (the first field to the left as you arrive). THIS AREA IS AVAILABLE AFTER 12AM ON THE DAY OF YOUR ARRIVAL. If you do arrive before 12am you will be charged for an additional night"
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But then the 0900 booking in time seems to mean the LNA ( after midnight)area arrivals
Hillhead try to cater for the overnight miss the traffic arrivals as well ,and like the Cornish site states it means, if a pitch becomes available,but then Hillhead is 1200 deps or up to 1600 if space permits
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but again you make this sound like it is a club only issue. The other large sites have even more stringent arrival and departure times, with some leave by 10 and arrive by 2. in this respect this is significantly far better than most.
Also non of the large site organisations, both clubs, Haven... all have a set arrival and departure time, you have to ask yourself why is that, why don't they all take the approach your describe? Is is perhaps they have done their homework and such a system as your for a very busy site could cause serve problems.
folk left to their own devices will naturally arrive at different times, making the flow at the gate a trickle not a bow wave.
Of course this is just your unsubstantiated theory, and again why haven't all the big site adopted this? All it would take is days when this doesn't happen and you can imagine what would happen. Maybe they have looked at different arrival times and your system is just unworkable?
so, while we continue with the tail wagging the dog (staff/rota systems dictating to customers when they can arrive)
You keep going back to this, again a theory, On most sites there are multiple sets of wardens, the office is completely open from 8.30 am till 5pm with no breaks and therefore nothing to do with cleaning rotas dictating when people can arrive? On single set warden sites then yes the wardens are cleaning so no one can arrive. Yes the club could employ cleaners but this would make fees even higher (which you have often complained about) and of course would the standard be the same? (Even AD thinks club site toilets are cleaner than most).
So it is not just a club issue. Anyway as you say it hardly affect you so win win all round.
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as I said, club site are far better than most in arrival and departure times.
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I didn't quote I paraphrased
this is a quote; (replying to HD's Next time I'm on site ,I'll be brave and try them
Seriously HD you know how much of a fan I am of club sites but we use a lot of sites and always use the showers and the washups, toilets to a lesser extent and rarely have we found better than the club offer.
I can only imagine in taking in to context Husky's post that you were talking about the cleanness David? I really can't think you were talking about the actual physical sinks and toilets? I would think they are standard everywhere?
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