Arrival Times
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Or even 9am.arrivals which are allowed at Edinburgh club site?
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In our case arriving bang on the dot of opening time is nothing to do with wanting to 'steal a march' on anyone else but purely not seeing the point of sitting around at home waiting to go off on the first day of our holiday, or hanging around at a site waiting to go on to the next. I think it depends on whether you are the sort of person who likes to get up and get on in the morning or take it easy for the first couple of hours.
Combined with liking getting up and on in the morning we like a nap after lunch. It is much more relaxing if we have done everything needed to set up rather than leave some of it for later in the afternoon.
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agreed, David, perhaps its a mentality thing.....?
my views on 'one in, one out' (as mentioned, and supported, by Tintent upthread) stemmed from observations on a lazy day on a very busy site in touristy France (full for weeks in season) where i happened to comment to my OH about the 'steady stream' of vans joining the site.....
however, this was spread over the whole day, with the earliest arrivals at around 9:30.....but no issue as a couple of vans had already left....and the latest arrivals well into the evening...
the new arrival only had a limited choice of pitches, but 'pitch envy' doesnt seem to be much of a priority on most sites in france, folk just want to get parked up and get on with their day....
once the first van has left in the morning, theres no point in blocking the entrance and having vans queue (which they will, whatever the rules say) so a gentle trickle onto site means no queue, a swift pitch up due to a fairly restricted choice of pitches (a list of unoccupied pitches will make this even quicker) and far fewer vehicles driving round the site at the same time (usually one), a boon for site safety for sure.
i realise that, for some, this seems like chaos (as there are no 'rules') but having seen it in action, it is a very calm process.
dropping the barrier and forcing folk to queue (despite there being many vacant pitches) might satisfy the need for 'discipline' but in fact (as many similar threads testify) only results in waiting, frustration and a glut of traffic on site in one go.
as AD says, left to their own devices, most vanners will arrive when they arrive (spread throughout the day), usually dependant on where they have travelled from.
start telling them when they should arrive (for most this means all at the same time) and the problems associated with volume of arrivals are bound to be increased.
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I must be different, I don't care where I end up on a site be it to the front, to the back or either side.
I'm out most of the day and I have no interest in gazing out of the windows when I'm in.
I arrive when I get there and take what's on offer, it's simple, stress free and works every time.
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.....but why have a '12 o clock rush' at all?
this is an artificial bow wave resulting from a specific timing policy.
you got in 'easily' after this 'rush' was over, so have sites open after the first van has left and there wont be a 'rush' at all...and all vans can get in 'easily'.
ok, there wont be the 'charge round the site' for the best pitches.....as only one (or two) vans will be on the site roads at any one time.
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Sometimes even the security of knowing where you will spend the night does not solve the problem. I only put this as someone will probably suggest booking a specific pitch, as a way to solve the mass arrival syndrome. However, the health club we belong to is part of a large hotel chain. Rooms are available from a certain time and are pre assigned. Even on nice sunny days when folk could be visiting somewhere on the way, there are still long queues at check in time. I find it difficult to understand. Talking with some of them, they are repeat visitors, so must know it happens. I can only put it down to a Lemming like instinct.
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If folk were confused by the pitch surface booking thing. Just think what would happen by having some restricted, due to access and others anytime after 9:30. 😉
The pitch booking thing was just a CC excuse😱 Variable times I think not so much so.
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We are never in a rush to reach a site, in fact during Summer months, arriving before 8pm and being vanquished to the dreaded LTA area is irritating. Small MH, 10 minutes max time to set up on pitch, we are out and about doing all day, including travel days. Who cares which pitch we get, on a Club Site it is more than likely square, covered in nasty chippings and too close for real comfort between a pair of other white boxes.
We roll up at all times, by pre arranged agreement with Site owners. A lot less stressful.
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don't think like the 'club' and have a set 'time' if this would confuse....
the arrival time would be 'come anytime'....for all sites.....
folk naturally leave sites at varying times throughout the day.
the pitches they vacate can be filled (piecemeal) by those who 'naturally' arrive at varying times throughout the day.
if an arriver arrives and there hasnt yet been an early leaver to donate a space....the early arriver will have to wait.....
however, as there are always early birds leaving, the chances of an arrival travelling any distance (from home or previous site) and getting there before folk like Easy are on the road is very slim.....so 'sites with restricted access' cease to become a problem....there are no jams to 'manage' with artificial timings.
the busy french site i alluded to earlier, had little space for queuing vans and 'restricted access' , however this wasnt a problem as no one ever queued, despite the site being full every day.
it depends on whether the club wants to 'force' folk to queue (as now) or think a little outside the box to make life a bit more straightforward.
unfortunately, i can now hear the rumblings of 'he had longer on site than i did....' should the club ever become more flexible.
none of these things seem to matter 'on some other sites...'
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the arrival time would be 'come anytime'....for all sites.....
There are a few sites that I would rather not meet another caravan when leaving, as someone is going to have to reverse. Yes I know you could meet other traffic but that would not generally be another 12 / 13 metre articulated rig. A MH may be a bit easier to reverse, I don't have any experience. Although if it is towing a car I would not think it very easy.
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steve, perhaps the French and the Dutch are better drivers?
either that or the dont really get stressed or apprehensive about visiting something as potentially dangerous as a 'campsite'.
other than the currently 'enforced' arrival/leaving times, why would 6 caravans/mh be using the Chatsworth drive at the same time....
in real life, these vans would be spread out far more evenly across the day.
yes, to meet one might be bad luck, but really, is passing a van on. a drive that hard?
what do caravan owners do in town centres when theres a lorry parked inconveniently?
we seem to be awfully good on CT in dreaming up 'reasons not to.....'
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BB....have you been to Chatsworth?
The road to the site is not short, and it is narrow, with fences either side, on the last stretch there is no place to go if you meet another vehicle other than the one passing place.
You cannot compare it with manoeuvring past a parked lorry in a town, something we frequently have to do.
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Arrival Time ......now there's a couple of words that can mean a vast difference to so many people .
Over the years in the CC , sorry the CMC I've seen members arrive & depart at all times around the clock , unfortunately some don't feel obligated to understand that certain procedures are there for ALL members benefits & enjoyment .
So please if you ever arrive early on site & are refused entry until the allotted time , that person passing you outside the barrier wearing a broad grin 😸.......is probably me 😇.......have a nice day
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Last week we were at Trewethett Farm site in Cornwall, we were there for a special "landmark" birthday for my Wife. With this site the main attraction is the fantastic sea views you get from some of the pitches..
Perhaps the 'club' should make these pitches fully serviced with an extra premium for the location..market forces etc etc...
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+1😎
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That surprised us last year. We had booked a pitch but waited in a layby during the morning, until i had another look at the booking and then it was whoo hoo!!!! I can't remember why they are able to do it. The warden did tell me but memory isn't what it was!
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Kjell, never been there....as i dont do Frenzy Day, no chanch of getting decent stay there in decent weather at short notice....
yes, i can see the drive is 0.8ml long from google maps....interestingly, the street view of the entrance shows two happy campers who are just about to let their dog dump by a tree....
if the club absolutely 'has' to have a specicic arrival time at Chatsworth (or even one or two other sites) then so be it (so difficult to let go....) but for pretty much every club site weve been to i cant remember anything preventing safe entry other than an abitrary arrival time.
so, for the most part, a trickle in system wont present a problem....
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in Devon on Monday, and then France as soon after the end of that week as possible
...any way, i said in decent weather
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Often some very reasonable weather in early March, and when these come on stream shortly, it is fairly easy to get a week if you want that long.
On the early arrivals front, I don't think it is fair to compare primarily holiday sites on the other side, with those in this country close to major population centres, that are often used for long weekends. Chatsworth is only one such popular site, and it also happens to have an access issue. However, access issue or not if you made arrivals from say 9:30, that is when you would move a large number of arrivals to. Almost certainly at busy times, more than you have spaces for. Many of those who visit sites such as Chatsworth, York and Cambridge, to name but a few, live less than an hour away and are extremely likely to maximise their short stay.
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,there was a motor caravan and toad cut corner into site