Seacroft pitch 93 BEWARE

NutsyH
NutsyH Forum Participant Posts: 534
edited July 2017 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

I attach a self explanatory email sent to Club today. This system will not allow me to attach the photos as they are too large.

 

Good morning.


Overnight Saturday 29th July we experienced heavy rain, however being on a hardstanding pitch right at the top of a sloping site, did not expect any problems. We were shocked and disappointed to wake up to a flooded awning. Our awning carpet was floating on 2 inches of water, and many possessions ruined. The awning itself had not leaked - the water had flowed in from under the caravan. It is quite clear that this pitch has been laid in a hollow, with no drainage.


This was the only pitch on the site which flooded.


According to other members who had been here for longer than us, this is the 3rd time this season that this pitch has flooded.


The warden was not at all surprised when I reported to him and immedietely attended to help in attempting to trying to get rid of the water, unsuccesfully. Eventually he allocated another pitch to us, and we spent the rest of the day moving and drying out our possessions.


I am very angry to find out that the Club and the area manager already are aware of this problem and have taken no action. In fact I understand that the Warden has been instructed to maintain full capacity rather than closing this pitch. If that is correct, I would suggest that the club are not only putting profit before the welfare of their customers, but are actualy guilty of negligence.


I recently underwent major surgery, and pitching the caravan and awning is difficult enough without having to do it twice.


 I attach a series of photographs of the water after lifting the carpet, showing the water and the trenches dug by the warden. 


Finally I wish to make it clear that the warden was very helpful in difficult circumstances.


I await your urgent response.

 


Regards

Paul Hudson


Sent from my Samsung tablet

Moderator Comment - Membership and phone number removed to protect member's security.

 

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  • young thomas
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    edited July 2017 #2

    i would remove your phone number from your postsmile

  • huskydog
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    edited July 2017 #3

    and membership number

  • Bakers2
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    edited July 2017 #4

    Gosh how awful. I trust all is now dry and you have photos of damaged goods together with replacement costs. I wish you luck getting it sorted and I too would remove your phone number from this post if it's still possible.

  • DavidKlyne
    DavidKlyne Club Member Posts: 13,868 ✭✭✭
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    edited July 2017 #5

    Isn't 93 on the new section of the site and actually higher than the road that runs behind the pitch? Should have been sorted when they did the original ground work.

    David

    PS Re Photos, they have to be resized to 650 pixel width to load as thumbnails in posts. Apparently there are apps for tablets available that can do this but appreciate that it was not at the top of your priority list given the main issue.

  • RowenaBCAMC
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    edited July 2017 #6

    I'm really sorry to hear your awning flooded. I've forwarded this discussion to the regional manager for feedback.

    Thank you to the moderator for removing personal details. We do advise members not to post contact information as this is a public forum. 

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  • RowenaBCAMC
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    edited July 2017 #8

    Hello Paul, I have spoken to the Regional Manager. We are really sorry this has happened and your pitch was affected by the heavy rains. We will be investigating this and looking at ways we can prevent this from happening again in the future. 

  • huskydog
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    edited July 2017 #9

    just make the pitch higher than the surrounding landwink

  • NutsyH
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    edited July 2017 #10

    David

    That is correct hence why we were so surprised that it happened.

    Seems to me that this pitch is slightly lower than the others on this new, top part of the site so catches everyone elses run off. 

    The warden has now coned it off. 

    Paul

     

  • NutsyH
    NutsyH Forum Participant Posts: 534
    edited July 2017 #11

    Thanks to the Mods for removing my numbers.

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2017 #12

    Seacroft is not the only site that Hardstands get flooded after heavy rain Black Knowl (before refurb last year) we were flooded on the high area ,Ferry Meadows numerous pitches (laid on a clay base?)to name but two we have visited

  • NutsyH
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  • NutsyH
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    edited July 2017 #14

    Hi Rowena

    I think you'll find that merely ensuring it doesn't happen again will not be sufficient. I will await a detailed email response from those responsible, as I understand that you cannot do anything other than sympathise.

    Regards

    Paul

  • DEBSC
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    edited July 2017 #15

    This looks awful, especially difficult if you were still recovering. This isn't the only site it happens on though. We used to visit the Moreton in Marsh site regularly and many of the hard standing pitches on one side of the site food there. On 4 or 5 occasions we have had our awning flooded. On one occasion we waded through it up to our ankles and the couple in the motorhome next door didn't/couldn't get out for hours. We eventually moved pitches and later the next day someone else went on this pitch. They got flooded two days later.

     

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  • huskydog
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    edited July 2017 #17

    Is it not one of the hazards of having an outdoor hobby???????

  • peedee
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    edited July 2017 #18

    Thanks for the warning. Usually you can tell if a pitch floods or puddles, especially after recent rain, by the dirty patches left on the gravel.

    peedee

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  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2017 #20

     They could be seen as guaranteeing "hard" but not "dry".

  • cyberyacht
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    edited August 2017 #21

    A few HS pitches at Littlehampton flood on occasions as well. As has been commented earlier on this thread, given the substantial pitch fees one should quite reasonably expect a pitch that is fit for purpose.

  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2017 #22

    This pitch should immediately be taken out of service before any investigation or remedial works

  • NutsyH
    NutsyH Forum Participant Posts: 534
    edited August 2017 #23

    Thanks David and noted. I will take your advice when I return home next week. I posted on the forum to warn others rather than to conduct the negotiations on here. I have already had an offer via the warden, which I have declined.... and I have all the time in the world.

    Paul

  • NutsyH
    NutsyH Forum Participant Posts: 534
    edited August 2017 #24

    Not when it is a known hazard. 

  • NutsyH
    NutsyH Forum Participant Posts: 534
    edited August 2017 #25

    Not 93. It is pristine now as I sit looking at a motorhome on it. (He was warned bybthe warden)

  • NutsyH
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    edited August 2017 #26

    £40 + with 2 grandchildren at this time of year.

  • David2115
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    edited August 2017 #27

    I don't want to appear unsympathetic and I'm sureI will be shot down in flames but actually is it that disasterous? I can see the puddles where the carpet was but that will dry out and struggle to think what other possessions could be so seriously damaged, maybe  some shoes got wet?

    I do wonder what you would require from the club , is it compensation ? As some other poster said it's part of outdoor life? Or am I missing something ? 

    ive been away for last 10 days and it's rained every day, the ground gets soaked and things get wet. 

    Sorry for your ill health, hope you recover soon 💦😄

  • NutsyH
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    edited August 2017 #28

    I own a Lloyds  Insurance Underwriting Agency and despise the compensation seekers, so no I am not after compensation, nor do I need it. The things destroyed were mainly grandchildrens stuff that they had left on the floor. Kids very upset is not an easy thing to deal with, nor is wading around in dirty, muddy water. I expect it when I go Le Mans and pitch in a field, not on a £45 per night CC site. 

    What you are missing is the fact that the club is a Ltd Company and owes a duty of care to its Customers. Knowingly allowing customers to use a pitch susceptible to flooding without giving due warning is negligence. I will not enter into a discussion on here about my expectations, I posted this thread as s warning to others. 

    Paul

  • NutsyH
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    edited August 2017 #29

    I should amend that to say "the unjustified chancers who seek compensation at every oppertunity". Contrived Whiplash, accidents that are no ones fault etc. They cost you all money in increased premiums.

    No problem with genuine claimants who have suffered loss or injury through no fault of their own.

    Paul

  • David2115
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    edited August 2017 #30

    The tone of your OP  seemed to indicate something different. My mistake. I hope the club respond urgently as you requested. 

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