Lack of rules
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After a couple of months in countries where the minimum spacing is only 50cm, it makes a pleasant change to use a regimented Club site.
Not all sites abroad pack them in, but in popular areas it is common and often you have no choice if you want to visit the area. On the site we used in Amsterdam our car was so close to the next van that we had to be very careful when opening the doors!
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no - just don't believe it. Can't be true after all we've heard?
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Six metres? And a peg? And all face the same way? Here we are.
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"And all face the same way?"
That has nothing at all to do with any rule - as there is none (apart from, I believe, one stately home which is still in the early Victorian frame of mind).
It does have a lot to do with the manufacturers frequenlty building caravans with the main living area at the tow hitch end, and the users of these caravans all wanting to look at the same view.
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Not our usual experience either David, but it does happen .
Having a long van, when the usual pitching mode is parallel to the road, we can end up rather close to the adjacent van. Some sites seem more set up for MHs, so pitches are tight if you have caravan, awning and car.
The culprits are mainly those sites convenient for cities.....Amsterdam, Koln, Munchen, Berlin etc.
No problem in the country areas, other than weekends on some Swiss sites.
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Hey! That's good to know. I have never made it that far (or got a booking to suit) but nice to know that if I did I would not be made to face the wall.
Not that I could understand how the trailer caravans were to be moved in the emergency when they are now all equiped with hitch locks and wheel locks, and even some with motor cycle security chains through wheels and chassis!
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I don't know what airline you have flown with (BEA, BOAC?) but I never spend more than an hour at the airport before take off. Maybe in the dim and distant past you had to do this but now they have things like on line check in with seats allocated, and fast track security, bag drop off or drop your the bags off the night before. I suppose taking your van over there all the time these things have passed you buy?
Anyway please as asked by Bugs, please stick to UK issues here.
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mmm interesting. Is that what happens with Thomas Cook at your local airport? No online check in? no fast track? Shame. Well last year for us, we live 20 minutes from the airport and we usually get taken (family or book a taxi), 1 hour there, 1 hour 55 minute flight, maybe 40 minutes at the other end and 15 minutes to the hotel, drink while OH checks in, Ok yes, I apologise maybe over 4 hours then but certainly less than 5 as opposed to two or three days.
Anyway pleas stick to UK issues.
back to the OP I really can't see a busy site (club or not) operating on the manner suggested. For one point, what happens if the site is full the next day?
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It is horses for courses as far as i am concerned. So far this year we have - unusually for us - stayed only on club sites and only have two commercial sites booked so far (apart from our summer trip to french France). We have also (co-incidentally) parked nose-in on 3 club sites this year. On one, the warden did look a bit perplexed but otherwise were told on another club site the advantage of parking nose in first (views). It does constantly surprise me how many members are unable to expand their experiences and look outside the club site network - yes there really is a world of sites of all types one can imagine - and probably some you cannot! A colleague of mine in the CC will not 'risk' (as he puts it) a non-club/commercial site....... Ross Park (mentioned above) is a perfect example of an independent commercial site the Club should be bench-marking against.
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Ross Park (mentioned above) is a perfect example of an independent commercial site the Club should be bench-marking against.
I have never stayed at Ross Park but it appears to be a member of the Best of British group of sites. We have stayed at several of these because we want to stay on hardstandings and so "vote with our wheels" like Jayess and others....
I'm not sure that Ross Park should feature under the heading "Lack of Rules" though.....
Electric heaters are not permitted in awnings. For everyone’s safety, bicycles, scooters,etc, are not to be ridden on the main Park but on the leisure field only.
That won't be popular with some!
I cant see much it offers over the typical club site (unless you want a bar) other than pre booking hardstandings....
In that respect I totally agree and have said it on here before, the club needs to grasp the nettle, accept that most people want all weather pitches and ramp up the installation of new hardstandings, perhaps even give the grass pitches away at half price to those who are prepared to accept them...
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Well, it was me who mentioned Ross Park - we were there last week and had a great time, thoroughly enjoyed staying there.
But ... the pitches ( separated by hedges) are slightly smaller than many CAMC HS pitches, (we didn't have enough room to park our car either alongside or in front of our van), the pitching arrangement is exactly the same as on club sites and the rules were pretty much the same too - in fact the rule about noise specifically mentioned and quoted the CAMC rule about noise.
Don't get me wrong, it's a great site with facilites much better than your typical CAMC site, but as far as RULES are concerned you'd be hard pressed to spot the difference.
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Agree with your last paragraph. But would add service pitch to that as a payable extra. Also more sites once they have them to be opened through out the year.
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Ross Park isn't as rule bound as one we stayed at last year but there's still the 'no commercial vehicles" tucked away in the small print which means a phone call if I wanted to book.
Still worth doing for HS though.
It seems quite a few of us go to other providers for HS at peak times. The club may not know what the new generation of explorers are going to look like but I'll bet 90% of them won't want to pay top dollar for grass pitches
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I think it is slowly coming, new sites are all HS, and more grass pitches being converted to grass each season.
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Hi everyone, I've removed a few of the posts as the discussion was turning into an argument. I appreciate everyone's efforts keeping the topic on track, friendly and constructive. FYI I have forwarded this discussion to our sites team requesting a detailed response on why we have the rules we do on Club Sites.
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I think why we have each rule is obvious when one considers what would be happening if the rule was not there.
What I do think needs changing is the approach to toilet cleaning times. I suggest only one gender of toilet is cleaned at a time, and while it is cleaning and drying afterwards the other gender is made unisex. Those members who would be squeamish about using a unisex toilet would not be forced to do so. They can wait outside until it reverts to singlesex, as they would have had to do anyway if it was closed.
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agree with you about the rules, there would be far greater complaints if they were not there, they have evolved and changed over mt time in the club and is there any rule in there is that is really bad, or too harsh? Any particular rule? I think they are pretty good in my view
Again the rules gives structure, guidelines, to everyone having a good time while on site. You do sign to agree by them then you join. Does anyone read them before joining? If the club rules are too onerous for you then use other sites where a less structured site suits you best?
the site cited by the OP works if everyone there is reasonable, but what happens when people aren't? And of course one person's reasonable obstruction or how far away isn't anothers.
As to your second paragraph, I would amend it to every site having a toilet open at all times during cleaning. I'm not sure showers are needed 24/7? This actually happens on most sites I've been to with the opening of either the disabled or the extra cleaning toilet.
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Caravanning around Spain and France staying on various sites from small to large sites never any mention of rules or how to pitch, our present site is a nice pitch surrounded on three sides by hedges, with private individual shower and toilet.
Because we have doors on opposing sides we are parked about two mtr from the unit on the next pitch each side of the dividing hedge works fine.
Pitch fee includes car caravan or motorhome and up to six people with awning, tents
or shelter providing it fits on your plot.
I am member of C.C.C. and C.M.C. on and off since the eighties C.M.C. like you to park near a little stick C.C.C. show you to your pitch I suppose it is in the rules thought up by some jobsworth years ago, As its my choice to join I go along with this but have never read either clubs rules but use my own try not spoil others enjoyment.0
, but I have seen pictures of vans that look close together, perhaps it was the angle of the camera
