Flapping & Flashing

mickysf
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edited May 2017 in UK Campsites & Touring #1


On a recent outing we found ourselves pitched near others with large flags on tall flexible poles planted in the ground. Although the flapping was not particularly loud the movement was constantly in our vision and when sitting out the flag's shadow from the van next to us constantly waved across our hardstanding. To cap it all at night we were treated to a light show with flashes and colour changes up and down these poles. Now I don't mind such things at rallies or shows but on sites where we go to enjoy the peace and quiet and escape the hassles of modern living I feel these are intrusive and dominate the skyline of the entire site. Do others feel the same?

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  • dmiller555
    dmiller555 Forum Participant Posts: 717
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    edited May 2017 #2

    Yes. 

     

  • SteveL
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    edited May 2017 #4

    Personally as long, as they are well secured, I don't have a problem with it. Adds a bit of colour and I rather like the lights. At this time of year I would not have though the lights an issue as it gets dark so late and when the nights draw in, we are in the van with the blinds up, so would not see them anyway.

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2017 #5

    Another that dislikes 

  • Merve
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    edited May 2017 #6

    I agree Micky! Phil has it bang on- moaning old gits have a right to peace and quiet  too! I hate the bloody things!  Did you ask them to take it down and explain why? Shame you couldn't have lit a smokey BBQ with the wind in their direction and then wait for the response!! 😂😂

  • N1805
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    edited May 2017 #7

    During poor weather conditions flagpoles are of concern to me as they, IMHO, could possibly cause problems to other campers & or their units/vehicles etc.  Having said that I did see that a flagpole was taken down & put back up next morning when bad weather occurred overnight on a club site we stayed at.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited May 2017 #8

    I can't imagine being asked to take it down being met with a favourable response. One wanting it up, one wanting it down-you have an impasse. It's the old argument of some like them & some don't. I'm a liker. I personally get my solace off site, I've not expected a site of potentially hundreds of folk going about their break to allow much of a level of 'peace & quiet'laughing

  • mickysf
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    edited May 2017 #9

    No I didn't mention it Merve, you see although I'm not keen on these things on 'ordinary' sites I've always considered myself to be pretty tolerant of others. I must say though that as the years roll on I may just be metamorphosing into a grumpy old git!  wink

  • ValDa
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    edited May 2017 #10

    We moved sites because of this.  It wasn't on a CMC site, but in France, Two pairs of Leicester City football club loving caravanners, turned up each with a flagpole, foot ball flags and bunting, each pole with flashing lights in football colours, and each with a TV which they watched outside.  Not only that but they shouted over our (hedged) pitch to each other when they weren't watching TV. The next morning after our polite requests fell on deaf ears, we and the Dutch couple to the other side of one outside had both packed up and moved off by 9.00 am.!  It's the only time we've ever seen this in France.

    We would consider ourselves pretty tolerant, but perhaps, like others, our tolerance levels reduce as we get older (and grumpier????). 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited May 2017 #11

    Personally don't like them and also don't see the point. What is someone trying to prove by having such enormous flags things adorn their pitches? Is it a sign of virility or just general a sign of dumbing down? Perhaps someone who displays such things could explain and why they should erect such things without consulting their neighbours.

    David

  • brue
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    edited May 2017 #12

    Save the Penguin One...laughing

  • Oneputt
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    edited May 2017 #13

    The old Marmite questionsurprisedwink

  • harryb
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    edited May 2017 #14

    I wouldn't say I dislike them but I can't see any point whatsoever in the need. Like David says it would be nice t hear the points of view of someone who actually uses a flag or light pole, or for that matter fairylights strung across the awning. The reason I say this is that I have just spent a week on a cl in the Shropshire hills. There was no light pollution over the field except for one caravan who had erected an LED pole tied to the A frame. The funny thing about it was that whilst it was illuminated at night they owners where indoors with the blinds closed so what is the point. 

  • JayEss
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    edited May 2017 #15

    We fly our flag at rallies and festivals and we have flashing lights on the pole as well. 

    If you don't know why we do it then no amount of explanation will help. 

    We don't bother on club sites for obvious reasons 

  • brue
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    edited May 2017 #16

    Last years national was like  the league of nations but it was fun and it helps find your van. Flashing lights ok too as long as they get switched off overnight, not so good for migraine sufferers. The telescopic poles are light weight plastic so shouldn't cause damage. The stall selling all these things was probably one of the busiest at the show.

    Families on holiday in the summer seem to go in for this. probably I'd have done the same with my family to make the holiday enjoyable.

    Tasteless...moi? Yes, sometimes. wink

  • compass362
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    edited May 2017 #17

    I'm afraid that until the club says it's a no go , people will continue to enjoy what they consider totally harmless .

    Personally I've no problem with flags /balloons /lights  like a previous poster said , as long as things are secured properly its not an issue .

    On the site we are currently on  we have a couple on display 🎏

    edit..........

    Now if you really want to see a flag display at a campsite  Silverstone F1 Grand Prix weekend is the place to go , ultimately if you haven't got something flying...... you're the odd one out 

  • Wildwood
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    edited May 2017 #18

    We have never had a problem with them but then again I cannot remember being very close to one either. I can see the point of those with meaning like clubs or similar but the rest just seem to be a waste of time.

  • SUBBY
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    edited May 2017 #19

    it is all an individual choice I like them and use them on occasion but not when I consider it too windy I also have small windmills set up as well.

    cheers Don

  • Merve
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    edited May 2017 #20

    LCFC supporters! That's perfectly permissible Valda! 😂😂😂 It must have been during last season when we won the Premier League?? No, I agree, if adults can't control their excitement then what an example to kids!! Don't blame you! I apologise on behalf of my county! 

  • PhilHeller
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    edited May 2017 #21

    Along with a massive windbreak extending from your Awning and various solar powered animal statues😂😂

  • JayEss
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    edited May 2017 #22

    It's not a sign of virility or dumbing down. If it's a waste of time it's their time to spend as they wish. 

    I watched someone at the weekend take over an hour setting up a seven tier bird feeder. That's about 10 times longer than it takes to put up our flag. Personally I'm not keen about folk attracting vermin near me but it's a shared space so we have to recognise that other folk do things differently. 

     

  • ArthurandJean
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    edited May 2017 #23

    We had someone pitch next to us at Daleacres last year who put up his flagpole in very strong winds. We were leaving the following day, so we ignored him and his stupid kite on a pole. As we had taken our awning down, I moved my car to the opposite side of the van, glad I did as the pole came down during the night and was within inches of our van and if I hadn't moved the car it would have hit it. The moron with the flag, wouldn't come out of his van in the morning until we had left. At the risk of starting an argument, I would now challenge anyone putting up a pole next to me.

     

  • JayEss
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    edited May 2017 #24

    Anyone is welcome to challenge me if I decide to put my flagpole up on a club site but it wouldn't stop me. 

    I'd enjoy the laugh 

  • huskydog
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    edited May 2017 #25

    So much for live and let live then !!!!, there are a lot of things that I wonder why people do that  ,but then there are a lot of things I do that people probably wonder about

  • Navigateur
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    edited May 2017 #26

    As has been explained on the forum before the rebrand lost threads, I have a pole and flag so that my girl-friend can find her way back to the caravan. 

    Not all sites are flat and open (New England Bay anyone?), and all caravans are identical white boxes when one has low spacial awareness.  It saves her much embarrasment when returning (or not) from the toilet block.  Pre-flag, she was once brought back by a four year old!

  • JayEss
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    edited May 2017 #27

    They never remember the reasons. It interferes with the opinions. 

    I use mine because I want to 

  • Wherenext
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    edited May 2017 #28

    Asked someone on site why they had one, just out of curiosity and they said it was to keep the ruddy Pigeons away. Following day I saw him cleaning the bird s*** off his awning. 

    He said the only possible use for it now would be if he could catch the Pigeon and.....surprisedlaughing

  • eurortraveller
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    edited May 2017 #29

    It sounds rather jolly. But I'm afraid I have never seen it because we are invariably the only Brits on site and the dour continentals don't seem to do it. 

  • mickysf
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    edited May 2017 #30

    That seems a good idea in this circumstance and is underpinned by a very real need. I guess many used at festivals & shows are deployed for much the same reason but I would think there is a very much reduced need for such on the 'run of the mill' ordinary site. 

    For me there are lots of individual behaviours which have a very low if any impact on the rest but a few which do. Often these flags and alike do dominate pitches and often sites and are clearly visible and audible when breezy to the many.

    I tend to make decisions about my behaviours based on the impact on others, not my self, but I am willing to accept without question that for some this means of identification and positioning of pitch is a requirement.

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2017 #31

    When our grand sprogs came with us we would fly a county flag and smiley flag so they knew where we were, when on big sites,so they could go with site met holiday friends,as long as we knew where they were going