Trade Vehicles

RKJ52
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edited May 2017 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

Has anybody noticed a slipping of the rules over allowing commercial and trade vehicles on site. I have just watched the warden allow a high top Ford Transit on site towing a 26 ft hobby. The van is plastered with signage and given the 4 guys with the van, it is clearly being used for trade purposes which I understood was against club rules, especially on a members only site which this one is. Anyone else seen something similar.

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  • huskydog
    huskydog Club Member Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited May 2017 #2

    The rule on sign written vehicles was relaxed a while ago ..

  • RKJ52
    RKJ52 Forum Participant Posts: 130
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    edited May 2017 #3

    Bit of a backward step I think. But what about trade vehicles, are the allowed now as well, and travellers because that is what will be next.

  • MaggieR
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    edited May 2017 #4

    Did they cause any problem? Any disturbance?

  • RKJ52
    RKJ52 Forum Participant Posts: 130
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    edited May 2017 #5

    No and I am sure they are probably a nice bunch of lads, but where does the line get drawn and we start loosing standards

  • RKJ52
    RKJ52 Forum Participant Posts: 130
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    edited May 2017 #7

    No Tinny, they are working on a local building site, and as for tolerance I have an abundance of it, you have to living in Cornwall

  • redface
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    edited May 2017 #8

    Yes, I have watched a trade van tow a caravan onto a pitch then go.

    10 mins later and elderly couple arrived in an electric car and stayed in the 'van

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2017 #9

    So what did the warden say when you challenged him about it? If the warden is happy, then their stay is legitimate.

    What has living in Cornwall got to do with it? One of the most laid back places in the country. I guess you're an incomer and not used to life down here.

  • JayEss
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    edited May 2017 #10

    Has anybody noticed a slipping of the rules over allowing commercial and trade vehicles on site?

    indeed I have. I see a commercial vehicle every single time I stay on a club site. 

    Keep your alarm on OP. I might steal your car. That's if I'm not drunkenly partying 

  • mickysf
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    edited May 2017 #11

    As long as there is no disturbance other than that possibly on some folks' eyes, then there really is no issue in my opinion. Regarding working whilst on site many of us 'professionals' have probably done that. I did on many occasions, commuting back and forth to work each day to my van and my holidaying family. It was great! 

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2017 #12

    There are a lot of members who have sign written"trade"vehicles that will also be used as the "family"tow vehicle and their other "family"car is a minismile

    If you are on any site any where the person/s next to you could be working in the area 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2017 #13

    Yes agree Micky, it's like being on a mini holiday staying in your outfit overnight.

    I think the rules are interpreted as that you can't actually 'work' on site as in for example people bringing you work there probably of a practical nature and/or setting up a mini workshop in your awning!

    As I said, I've travelled to work from a site and done work in the van, but marking doesn't make that much noise apart from me swearing!

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2017 #14

    How judgemental quite frankly. Three in one post as well, single sex group, sign written van and a hobby caravan.

    If they are on a Members only Site, then at least one of them must be a member. Why not leave everything to the Wardens to manage? 

  • groovy cleaner
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    edited May 2017 #15

    I wouldn't complain about 4 men on their own in a caravan I would go over and chat to them all kisslaughinglaughinglaughing

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2017 #16

    And I bet they would say hello back, possibly make you a cup of tea. A whole lot friendlier than some of the curtain twitching thought police who might be lurking elsewhere!smile

  • groovy cleaner
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    edited May 2017 #17

    as long as they didn't want me to clean their van laughing

  • Bakers2
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    edited May 2017 #18

    Maybe you could work on site? Might bring a better return 😆. On second thoughts nah it wouldn't. 

  • Milothedog
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    edited May 2017 #19

    One of the few things that really winds me up is when others pass judgement on me or others when they know absolutely nothing about them or me, other than reading  a post on a forum.yell

    Of the many things life has taught me, "never judge a book by it's cover" is so true smile

  • Oneputt
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    edited May 2017 #20

    Like any member as long as they don't interfere with my quite enjoyment of life I personally don't care.

    I don't have a commercial vehicle but have used the van for work, There is a current member down South who uses his van 365 days a year for work, never seen them running riot.

  • huskydog
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    edited May 2017 #21

    We have quite a few "trade" vans "touring" north Kent at the moment ,and you wouldn't want them on sitesurprised

  • Bluemalaga
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    edited May 2017 #22

    This topic was discussed a year or two ago and as I recall, there was more of an agreement with the views of the OP last time around. There were guidelines in the club rules at the time from memory which prevented commercial vehicles. I believe Husky posted earlier that the rules have been relaxed in this respect, but in searching for the guidelines on this, I could not find any rules at all, only the terms and conditions for seasonal or base pitches whatever they are. Which required the use as recreational only. I guess some would argue that working off site all day and returning evenings constitutes recreational. I doubt that was the intention.

    Without some form of restrictions, we will find sites gradually slipping away from places we want to visit.

    We stayed at a commercial site a few summers ago, and the Hobby van owners a number of pitches away returned from work each night and commenced the power wash of the tools used for the day. Quite a considerably mess around their van by the time we left.

    Did they cause us any grief? No but not sure I would have said the same if I was parked up next door.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2017 #23

    It's been posted on here by staff, BM, that sign written commercial vehicles are accepted on site these days. The warden, on occasion, may ask for them to be parked in the car park rather than the pitch.

    I guess it's part of the realisation by many that we should be all inclusive and not exclude certain vehicles or people as members should be treated equally.

     

  • JayEss
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    edited May 2017 #24

    I've seen quite a few commercials (pick ups) like ours that are used as private family cars as they are perfect for carrying outdoor kit. 

    Would the OP object to them or is is just ones being used for work?  How would you differentiate?

    I suspect that many would not object to our commercial. It's not sign written to reduce the risk of having our holiday disturbed tongue-out

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2017 #25

    This topic was discussed a year or two ago and as I recall, there was more of an agreement with the views of the OP last time around

    I can't recall that at all, most were saying that it doesn't matter what you tow with (with in reason) or how it's decorated, doesn't matter at all.

    So you're saying that someone going off site for work is different to someone going off site to visit a town are different things? One is allowed the other isn't? How would propose this is enforced or policed by the wardens? If the people in the OP were members they are perfectly entitled to use the site. This reminds me of the letter in the recent club magazine, that said that some caravans were being allowed on site that were older than 5 years old, and allowing dogs with no pedigree!

     

    The washing of their tools would not be allowed on club sites btw, you're not even allowed to wash your caravan.

  • Milothedog
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    edited May 2017 #26

    "Some caravans were being allowed on site that were older than 5 years old, and allowing dogs with no pedigree!"

    I'd better ask for my membership fee back then cool I'm in that group. And to make things worse my parents were council tenants cool

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2017 #27

    Sorry milo, but the opening post does rather say a lot about the person who wrote it. The people being referred to haven't broken any site rules, the Warden is aware of their set up. The OP gives the impression it is lowering the tone of the site, that they might be about to do something he/she disapproves of, and they represent the thin end of a wedge of invasion by Travellers.

    They haven't broken any rules, they haven't done anything wrong. I think the cover is off this particular book, and the wording is proving somewhat unfortunate. smile

  • Milothedog
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    edited May 2017 #28

    Hi Takingthedogalong

    Just in case there is any misunderstanding ?, My reply to your post was intended as seconding it smile

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2017 #29

    I have misunderstood Milo, and therefore apologise!embarassedsmile

  • Milothedog
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    edited May 2017 #30

    Not necessary but thank you.

    Sometimes the words in a post do not come across as the poster intended smile

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2017 #31

    Hope so in the case of the OP!