The same Club, just better...

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  • HelenandTrevor
    HelenandTrevor Forum Participant Posts: 3,221
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    edited February 2017 #632

    True, they haven't actually promised anything,  but it a great opportunity now to actually be pro active and improve the club.

    Having watched the video though now, I'am not very impressed. Have to agree not everyone uses their van to make use of the great outdoors!  

    I hope they now put more effort into getting the website sorted and supporting the CL 's that have had and still have problems with the website and search.

  • Inali
    Inali Forum Participant Posts: 224
    edited February 2017 #633

    In my ten years of membership I had a caravan for nine years, and now a motor home for one. I have not felt discriminated against at all in either category. On my first ever trip at Bladon Chains due to a wet summer hard standings were being saved for heavy motor homes, and so I had to go on grass, but that was a logical requirement at that time to prevent bogging down of heavy vehicles.

    I try whenever possible to have a hard standing pitch. It would be interesting to know what proportion of members would only choose a grass pitch. I would be happy if all pitches were made hard standings.

    What would I like for the future?

    Wifi on all club sites without exception

    All wifi to be full speed (unlike what I am suffering here at Ferry Meadows!)

    All pitches hard standings on all sites (and no grass strips to cross like at Cherry Hinton!)

    All sites with toilet/shower blocks (members who prefer to use their own wouldn't have to use them!)

    Negotiations with mobile phone networks to sort out the problems of sites with no signal reception (eg Ferry Meadows with zero signal for Three and Virgin (unless you take a walk into Nene Park!)

    Making associate sites meet the standard CMC requirements (no allocation of pitches, no making cars park away from their caravans, no open washbasin areas instead of cubicles, etc)

  • Wildwood
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    edited February 2017 #634

    If only they would listen!

  • RochelleCC
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    edited February 2017 #635

    Thanks for the kind words MichaelT,

    We're very much excited to see what the next generation of campers will bring to the table

  • RochelleCC
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    edited February 2017 #636

    Hi Moulsey,

    Members are not able to pre-book a specific pitch, but Site Staff will allocate a specific for an outfit if necessary.

    Hope this clears things up

  • Boff
    Boff Forum Participant Posts: 1,742
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    edited February 2017 #637

     

    At the end of the day it doesn't really matter what it is called but it does matter that there has been a justification made to do it that I don't believe exists in any meaningful way.

    As for the mission statement or whatever you want to call it. It is no more than empty marketing drivel.

    You want a mission statement here is my suggestion.

    We exist in order to support and facilitate our members pursuit and enjoyment of touring caravanning.

    End of. If someone wants to include the words motor caravan or whatever then fine.

    But all this talk of adventure and pioneering absolute rubbish. It is nothing to do with anyone if I use my caravan as a base for other activities or I simply want to sit inside it and twitch my curtains and tut disapprovingly makes no difference.

  • JohnTull
    JohnTull Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited February 2017 #639

    Lots of amusing and cutting comments from members here.  Sadly, many of them have more than a ring of truth.  But that's the club for you; on this occasion, window dressing appears to have taken precedence over improving service to members ( a user-friendly website would help keep my blood pressure in check). That said, rebranding was long overdue and on balance I prefer the new logo, such as it is. 

  • huskydog
    huskydog Club Member Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited February 2017 #641

    I am off  down to Dover this afternoon to watch all the caravaners jump of the cliffs in dispare wink

  • Alphonso Delard
    Alphonso Delard Forum Participant Posts: 36
    edited February 2017 #642

    I'm 46, no longer a spring chicken, but still feel much younger than most of my fellow campers when on a CMC site. If the club doesn't change, modernize, change it's way, yep, even re-brand, it's going to die. 

    I don't even think of myself as a member of a club, I'm paying a business for the services it provides; the occasional stay on a CS, van insurance and Red Pennant. Similar to a Go Outdoors membership card for example.

    Without the van insurance and my yearly trip to France, for which Red Pennant provides me with some comfort, I probably wouldn't join. Why not? Well, there are plenty, more than plenty, of independent sites that offer my family much, much more, for a very similar cost. Fully serviced pitches, decent play areas, a field to play ball games in, maybe a table tennis table, a boules sandpit, free wi-fi, other families rather than majority retired couples, no strict pitching rules - just common sense, maybe the odd indoor swimming pool, booking a certain pitch that we've enjoyed before, there's probably a lot more.

    So many moaners on here, people don't like change. But without change, there's no future in the club (business) as it currently runs.

    As for the additional services the club offers me, superb. Cheaper and better insurance for my individual circumstances, and a travel insurance package that gives us great comfort when we go abroad.

    Hopefully the re-brand will just be the start of things to come. Modernization has to come, and with some luck, this re-brand will be just the start.

    Well done CMC, you have to entice the future membership, and hopefully this will just be the start of many things to come.

     

  • AcoupleofOldies
    AcoupleofOldies Forum Participant Posts: 9
    edited February 2017 #643

    In a couple of years there will be a further re-brand to reflect us baby boomers love of the sixties. The Caravan Motorhome and Campervan Club has a certain ring about it and the new logo can them incorporate the famous (infamous?) VW logo. At present the new logo looks like the cheeks of a rather large bottom !!! 

  • huskydog
    huskydog Club Member Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited February 2017 #644

    It's a bit ironic that the envelope that came to day with my new logo stickers inside  had the old logo on the envelope undecided

  • moorlander999
    moorlander999 Forum Participant Posts: 36
    edited February 2017 #645

    I received a later just now from the Club announcing a change in club name and branding 

    cant recall reading anything about this in the last members mag 

    I do not use the forum on a regular basis but I was under the impression that this was a " members only club " and that all changes must be the subject of discussion / vote at AGM level and therefore against the clubs constitution ??

     

    The new logo is poor , it resembles the Walls ice  cream branding !

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall's_(ice_cream)

     

    The "old " logo was good enough to last 110 years and was easily identifiable as The Caravan Club and surely that could have been adapted to encompass the motor home section ?

    The cost of re branding everything on the club will be no doubt astronomical and will ultimately be borne by members.

     

    sorry Chairman / presidents but I think you have got it wrong ......

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited February 2017 #646

    I'm 46, no longer a spring chicken, but still feel much younger than most of my fellow campers when on a CMC site. 

    I am a similar age Alphonso. Just reverse the digits, 64, Do I feel older than you? Not really. Just remember that the eyes looking in are often no younger in outlook than the eyes looking out.

    As for:  Fully serviced pitches, decent play areas, a field to play ball games in, maybe a table tennis table, a boules sandpit, free wi-fi, other families rather than majority retired couples, no strict pitching rules - just common sense, maybe the odd indoor swimming pool, booking a certain pitch that we've enjoyed before, there's probably a lot more.

    That has been available for many years but some prefer to generally select a no frills site.

    As an aside those that you appear to see as Old Farts and DInosaurs (my words - not yours) bring a lot to this club by often using the sites and putting cash into the coffers at times when sites might otherwise be very quiet. Do not discount our value to the club too readily, there's a good chap!

  • Muddibootz
    Muddibootz Forum Participant Posts: 6
    edited February 2017 #647

    I tend to agree. Perhaps part of the rebranding should have been to remove the word "Club" ?

  • Brian Garrod
    Brian Garrod Forum Participant Posts: 5
    edited February 2017 #648

    How very, very sad that the club I joined over thirty years ago has now become a club with another name.

    It was bad enough having to be parked next to a glorified camper van as large as my bungalow, blocking out the light. Now I am told I am a member of the, Caravan and Motorhome Club. I don't think so. 

    My membership will not be renewed this year.

  • Muddibootz
    Muddibootz Forum Participant Posts: 6
    edited February 2017 #649

    Great Idea.. and MUCH cheaper!

  • Takethedogalong
    Takethedogalong Forum Participant Posts: 17,046 ✭✭✭
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    edited February 2017 #650

    Oh deep joy. The post has brought me a new sticker. But still no bloody handbook! 

    Can no one at HQ spell      "p r I o r I t I s e"?

    I have however worked out the twisted logic between the envelope with the old logo and the new branded stuff inside. Two fold:

    1. Had something arrived in our household (most households?) with the new virtually meaningless logo on the front it would have been filed in "bin" unopened.

    2. It uses up a vast quantity of now defunct stationary, no doubt someone has decreed in a legitimate manner. Thereby a cost saving exercise, that will win the support of members.

    I would have been happy having mine sent out with my so far mythical handbook! (But it comes from another place, bleats HQ)

  • RochelleCC
    RochelleCC Forum Participant Posts: 337
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    edited February 2017 #651

    For more than fifty years we’ve been the Caravan and Motorhome Club in everything but name. This is not about favouring one group over another, it’s about embracing our inclusiveness and making sure we better reflect the diversity of our Club. That way, we can better meet the needs of all our members.

  • Rob Machin
    Rob Machin Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited February 2017 #652

    what a waste of money... But hey we get a lovely new Motorhome on the front page of the site book.. Welcome to the motorhome club !!

  • bikieLaw
    bikieLaw Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited February 2017 #654

    What a waste of time and money! Why can't you leave things alone? The logo is pathetic and if you need to make a film to explain it surely it defeats the object. As far as i'm concerned I am still in the "Caravan Club". Sorry!

  • JayEss
    JayEss Forum Participant Posts: 1,663
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    edited February 2017 #655

    This is the first time I've spotted this particular moderator. 

    Moderator edit: We had a bit of a blip with the website there, this has since been rectified.

  • Watendlath
    Watendlath Forum Participant Posts: 232
    edited February 2017 #656

    Personally I don't have too much of a problem with the new name, in the same way I didn't have a problem (years ago) when the Camping Club, as it was then known, became the Camping and Caravanning Club to refect the growing numbers of caravans on their sites.

    However, the logo is another matter. It is drab and anonymous and in no way shouts to the world that this club is about caravanning/motorhoming/trailer-tenting/tenting. As such it fails in its purpose.

    On the other hand, the muddy brown colour does remind me of some of the rubbish muddy (grass?) pitches we have been offered in the past, so not a complete failure thenwink

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited February 2017 #657

    I doubt that many members are too worked up by the name change - needless as many may see it. It is more the way that the operation was carried out. Nowt too new there then. Existing members made to wait for a new bi-annual handbook so that the CC (as was) can announce the wondrous change at a time to suit its publicists whilst leaving rank and file members completely in the dark (nowt new there then - again).

    The buzz words with no framework, let alone meat does probably P off many members it would seem (again - nowt new).

    Any chance on advising the Membership that is so highly valued as to what the score is with Mildenhall??

     

  • Dickdastardly1
    Dickdastardly1 Forum Participant Posts: 153
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    edited February 2017 #659

    I think the club should be praised for being brave and biting the bullet to enable the club to move with the times and stay fresh.

    Whimpy didn't change and where are they now?

    Some members are posting threads asking why they were not consulted in this process?

    The name change is neither here nor there but the quality of what you get on site visits is far more important IMO.

    So,  the simple answer to get what you need is to complete the surveys emailed to you after visiting sites, this is your opportunity to have your say ! If you do not complete the surveys then how can you complain?

    You will find that these surveys will become more comprehensive and the relevant sites will be given the results, this will enable the site to develop and enhance our visits....

  • RJLJ
    RJLJ Forum Participant Posts: 148
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    edited February 2017 #660

    I honestly don't care what they call the club but I would have liked the handbook in the post rather than a sticker that i'm not going to use.  Would also like to be able to book hardstanding pitches as i did during the trial.

  • moorlander999
    moorlander999 Forum Participant Posts: 36
    edited February 2017 #661

    It looks like the walls ice cream logo 

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall's_(ice_cream)