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...and the accusations of 'trolling' arent belittling? (2 posters on the previous page)
customers are entitled to express their disappointment with a product, especially when it was delivered late, in a poor state, untested and wont be fixed for ages.....
yes, its a forum, as we all know, but it says something about CC....or in fact any supplier that delivers something like this.....they dont really care about who its intended for, they would have tested it thoroughly if they did.
imagine how folk would react if their new caraven were delivered late, in a poor state, untested and wouldnt be fixed for ages....
yes, thats a caravan and this is a forum, but the CC doesnt deliver caravans, in addition to its sites network and other services, it (supposedly) delivers IT solutions to support its business and to engage and assist its customers.....
not sure that its really hit the spot with this one.....
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BB, with respect, that post would have been better posted completely separately rather than as a reply to my post since I have never used, nor condoned the use of, the word trolling!
What is clear, to me, and its a purely personal opinion, is that the constant repetitive carping about the club and, in particular, this forum, is starting to resurrect the sort of bad feeling seen so often in the early days of CT's previous incarnation.
All very sad, I think.
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Yawwwnn.
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M, i didnt mention you either, i specifically said where these posters posted..
i replied to you because you mentioned 'ardent supporters' (not said by me) as being belittling and condecending.....
hardly, when comparing with 'trolling' which is a pretty serious accusation on a forum....
'with respect', you cant have it both ways....
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Ever heard of "irony" BB?
My final sentence was a word for word quote of one of the posters who used the, in my opinion, rather patronising expression I referred to!
I don't want things both ways - I'd prefer it if all posts were respectful and avoided explicit or, even worse, implicit insults. As I said just now, it simply leads to the sort of bad feeling we used to see in the early days of CT, possibly before you joined. Take my word for it, it wasn't pleasant!
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I am an Ardent Supporter of Scottish Rugby, The Scottish landscapes and The Scottish people. I do not consider that as Patronising. In fact I am proud to be those things.
You can call me an ardent supporter any time you like and I would treat it as a compliment.
Cheers...........................K
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Ah, thank you for clearing that up, K. You were using that expression in an entirely complimentary way. That's good and I wish eveyone was so clearly and unequivocally respectful of those with the opposite view to their own.
Well done you! Smiley smiley.
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why should a debate about any subject lead to a return to the bad old days?...although i confess i dont know what these are....
arent we just discussing the merits or otherwise of an aspect of the club, like sites, prices, dogs, children, adults only, early arrivals etc, etc?
i wonder if its the fact that the club is receiving a lot of criticism in this particular area that seems to raise passions in some quarters....
there are threads/areas that i dont get involved with as it can only lead to conflict as opinion is so obviously polarised.
perhaps, for those who think this might be one of those areas, taking a break (generally or specifically this area) might remove some of the 'passion'?
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That's surprising K, you called yourself non-partisan re Scottish Rugby on another thread, now you're an ardent supporter of Scottish Rugby-odd. You should be driven by principles not what suits you at that moment, that or take up Politics
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Someone correct me if I am wrong but I seem to remember many people complaining about the old forum which worked well enough as this one does for me. Is this not a case of be careful what you wish for?
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Absolutely right MF. The folk complaining about this site are pretty much the same as those who spent so much energy complaining about the old one! At the end of the day, I think any reasonable view would be that it's just a forum and certainly not worth all the angst some seem to experience.
The most important role of the CC is surely to maintain it's sites as a welcoming place for all members and to support CL owners in providing the facilities so many of us enjoy. Put beside that the forum is a relatively unimportant factor.
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BB, never let fact stand in the way of your posts eh? accusations of 'trolling you wrote
Please find where I or anyone else has accused anyone of trolling? Let me save you the trouble;
It's getting to be troll like behaviour scattered all over the place. (note the getting to be)
Who is being accused?
Like you I think they like complaining and trolling, no other explanation fits? does it? (Please note the no other explanation fits and question mark)
So who is being accused?
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well Corners, it aint difficult....
so, the writing of 'troll like behaviour' and 'they like complaining and trolling' doesnt mean this 'trolling' being done by 'someone' on CT?
in which case youve accused 'someone' of trolling.
weaseling around your words wont make it any different....
the middle and both ends of this debacle is that CC has made a real balls up with this upgrade and there are a few on CT who understand a bit about delivering IT projects successfully and have raised question marks about the lack of process discipline, especially the lack of testing, leaving customers to pick up the pieces.
i realise that there are also a group of people for whom the CC can do no wrong, whatever it is they choose to do....
so, lets just differ.....i think this is a really, truly poor effort, perhaps you think its fine....
what ever i say wont change your view, nor what you say will change mine.
lets just leave it at that....
have a lovely day
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I find the bickering among members somewhat bemusing. Over the past week the availability of "new posts" information has appeared and disappeared with almost clockwork regularity. The apparent inability to code properly for cookies to present this information suggests to me that the team responsible for this website are less than competent.
Whether the provision of a forum is important or not is not relevant. It is the competence of the people employed by CC to perform a particular task that is the issue here. Would we be happy if those responsible for financial matters showed a similar level of incompetence?
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Well said BB and CY....sadly I think many members assume that this site is the industry standard and don't actually use other forums.
I too have begged to differ with the few who don't actually know what Trolling is but get fairly close!
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