How to thrive on a non 240v site!
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I think the thread is basically about non EHU, a throw away comment by another poster a bit further back saying he only considered EHU sites put a spanner in the works. But I think the idea of the thread is to discuss ways of managing without EHU so discussing metering is irrelevant on this particular thread?
We've just had over a week away on a non EHU rally and it was easy to do even with quite a small battery, a 100w soar panel and OH deciding we only needed one bottle of gas. Fridge problems in the hot weather meant we got through the gas more quickly than expected. So we had to trundle a gas bottle to the nearest supplier, lesson learnt!
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I think the thread is basically about non EHU, a throw away comment by another poster a bit further back saying he only considered EHU sites put a spanner in the works. But I think the idea of the thread is to discuss ways of managing without EHU so discussing metering is irrelevant on this particular thread? smile
Well said Brue and it is the main reason I have not responded with any counter arguments on the subject of metering or choice for that matter. I made my initial point and considered there was no need to comment further.
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And no one has yet to answer how the cost of installations of these meters across all sites will be met? higher pitch fees?
PS I have very little interest at all in this thread but it does provide useful information for those that do, it is a shame it has been hijacked into EHU and meters?
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Then just let it go👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻😊
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You are most welcome👍🏻
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I am not in the least bit supprised that my observation. That I had never read anyone objecting to metered electricity because it would cost them more. A perfectly reasonable position imho. This is relevant to this thread because if low users are effectively subsidising those that abuse the system there by costing them more.
This forum had been ruined by a few posters who howl down anything they don’t agree with. They hunt in a pack. The bullying behaviour on this forum is notorious and is well known and remarked upon in other forums. This behaviour has driven many posters away. People who could have made a positive contribution and share their knowledge with this forum. They don’t because they have been put off by a few who’s contributions are nearly always negative
Don’t worry I’ve been here from the start and I am not going anywhere.
PS @Brue, I have on a couple occasion “fixed” a fridge that won’t cool on gas, by gently cleaning the flue. On one occasion with a goose feather, most recently with a tie wrap fastener. Might just work for you and doesn’t cost anything. NB if cleaning from above there is a baffle in the flue that needs to be removed.
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Boff, there was a thread recently about fridges in hot weather, I made a contribution on there because there are ways of improving this situation when using, in our case, gas. Unfortunately there is a server error on the thread and it cant be read. We did find a solution by making sure the air vents weren't covered by the habitation door, also we increased airflow over the fridge which has a slide out work surface over it. The temp control needs to be set differently in hot weather too. We got it to work correctly in the end but we lost food and overused the gas for three days.
There were comments that some van manufacturers continue to disregard fridge fittings regarding airflow etc and this can cause problems.
These are things that are useful to others who are off EHU and dependent on gas.
It would be a pity to lose this thread too due to comments that make contributors give up on the subject.
I hope we can continue now?
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STOP PRESS: Morrison’s have tweeted! Safefills are now acceptable at all their LPG outlets! This is a massive step forward for the evolution of LPG within the leisure industry. Congratulations to Safefill for their dogged determination to bring this brilliant product to market against all the odds! Thanks to Morrison’s who have approached this with an open mind and been convinced by facts not rumours and propaganda and Thanks to all those who wrote to Morrison’s when I suggested it- apparently that had much to do with the decision. Just show your Safefill Cylinder to the cashier and job done!
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Bit of a pathetic blog CY isn’t it -not yours- ETs! Water is necessary for life - electricity makes life easier but it’s not essential if you want to ‘go back to basics’ as the CMHC seems to think non EHUers do! He’ll be finding something wrong with me breathing air next! Come on, let’s be sensible!!!
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@ Brue, I think nearly all manufactures are guilty of obstructing the airflow with the door, with at least some off their models and as far as I know this against the installation instructions. Equally I have friends who are convinced that winter fridge covers are to stop drafts. I posted about cleaning the flue I did it about 6 weeks ago and it worked.
@ Merve, can you post a link to the tweet.
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Still probably on theme as with gas powering the fridge, things are more pushed due to the flues contribution.
Are we sure that habitation doors closing on fridge vents obstruct their function, or do they arguably augment them? Hopefully they close with a designed gap.
Spaced ideally the door could then well augment the "chimney effect" so improving the air flow over the heat exchanger's coils.
IMO, the bigger problem with them there is that is the awning side, so it causes restrictions.
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https://twitter.com/morrisons/status/1019309618554720260?s=21
if this doesn’t work try going to twitter and follow Safefill. Not very good with all this link lark!🤣🤣
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@ Merve, Thanks very interesting as my nearest Morrison’s selling lpg is about a mile away.
@ Brue and Ocsid, the strange part of the fridge not cooling on gas. In both cases, which were approximately 10 years apart, was the fridge had been working perfectly the previous weekend. Also visually I didn’t seem to shift much dirt and certainly nothing like cobweb, but the fridge cooled fine afterwards. The current fridge manual states helpfully that it should be serviced annually or more often if used on gas. With absolutely no definition of what more often actually means.
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We get ours serviced every year, basically we should have set the fridge at a lower temperature at the start, not overloaded it and not opened the door too much whilst the thermostat did it's work. I even had a look on YouTube after the event and there was some helpful advice on there. At first OH was convinced the thermostat had gone. It was an expensive lesson food wise. But when you're off EHU you're dependent on alternative means. Our habitation door does cover the vents so although there might be some vertical airflow in hot calm weather it didn't help. We don't use an awning and just had a canopy and partial windbreak up.
So there you go, read the instructions and follow advice....a pity we lost the other thread on this subject. Air flow inside the fridge and outside too, temperature settings and time allowed to reach settings and not too much food in one go.
Oh and don't take one gas bottle if you can take two. The nearest gas supplier might be a fair old walk, they don't all deliver.
Thanks for all the suggestions, always useful.
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Just a thought. The gas valve which is situated at the front right behind the plastic trim- on ours anyway can stick. Particularly after a long cold wet winter so if your fridge isn’t getting any gas but everything is switched on, try a sharp tap on the gas valve ( the big brass assembly) and that can free it. Worked for me just fine.
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My pleasure Merve. I hope the article the magazine produces us a good one 😉. The other times they've touched on 'basic' haven't been inspiring 😔.
I've learnt a lot from your posts, thank you. we had a solar panel on the motorhome when we bought it but you gave us the courage to try it. We're not off grid as often as you but I feel confident when we are thanks to you.
I think you should write an article a offer it to magazines why not get some return even if you pass it on to charity.
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