Travelling with water in the fresh water tank

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  • young thomas
    young thomas Club Member Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited February 2016 #32

    i dont think its 'for safety' at all....it far more cynical than that....Undecided

    they (and other manufacturers) now quote MIRO with this lower amount, which (of course) 'increases' payload.....and sounds betrer in the brochure.....

    it doesnt change the MTPLM which is all that counts when being checked for 'over weight' or not.

    some (elddis) now quote Miro with zero water in the tank.....make of that what you will...Sad

  • bognormike
    bognormike Forum Participant Posts: 18
    edited February 2016 #33

    1)  when I know I'm going to a site where I can fill up easily I'll go with about 1/4 tank so I have enough for the drive. 

    2) when going somewhere where I don't know what the supply is like, or I know I will have to pay for water (like many aires), I will fill up & travel with a full tank.   I went to Bruges for a few days this month, filled up before going, one night on the aire at Calais (known iffy condition of the water supply) and topped up at the Bruges aire (free water, easily accessible, and could attach my own hose)

    3) 120 litres = 120kg. insignificant in the scheme of things. Also in mine it's sat low down under the floor behind the "cab" and midway across the van, so adds to the stability.

    4) I have  a decent paylod, so don't need to worry a bout overall weight.

    5) In 18 years of motorhoming I have never felt the need to carry a huge water carrier to fill the tank; I have a length of foog grade hose and several tap fittings, also a watering can for "emergencies". 

    6) I carry a separate 5 litre (or more) plastic water bottle for drinking / brewing and refill that as and when necessary.

    and finally, if the water in the tank has been standing for  more than a few days at home, I'll dump it and use fresh. 

  • young thomas
    young thomas Club Member Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited February 2016 #34

    Mike,......nail, head.....it aint difficult.....

  • Rovingruby
    Rovingruby Forum Participant Posts: 12
    edited February 2016 #35

    Just bought a new Autotrail .The handbook recommends carrying no more than 25% full.

  • ABM
    ABM Forum Participant Posts: 14,578
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    edited February 2016 #36

    Do  they  also  recommend  Maximum or  Minimum  limits  of  Fresh  Milk  and   Brandy  ??

  • mg55
    mg55 Forum Participant Posts: 24
    edited May 2016 #37

    When we bought our motorhome the salesman said the tank was full when your feet got wet!!!!!!!!!!

  • Grumblewagon
    Grumblewagon Forum Participant Posts: 246
    edited May 2016 #38

    When my freshwater tank is empty, I put some water in it.  I empty the grey water tank when I remember.  I have a separate container for drinking water.

    Why make it anymore complicated than necessary.

  • mollykins
    mollykins Forum Participant Posts: 8
    edited May 2016 #39

    The water tank debate is done on every m/h forum, can't add anything except sometimes we do and sometimes we don't-depends on where we're going. Just wanted to say enjoy your Broadway, we've had ours 6 months and love it.

    Molly

     

  • hitchglitch
    hitchglitch Forum Participant Posts: 3,007
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    edited May 2016 #40

    If AS recommended only 25% for travelling I would sell it and give up. Although we will travel with only as much as we need it would be rather pointless to have a 100 litre tank and not be able to travel with it nearly full if needed. My 4x4 car takes 90
    litres of fuel. Be rather daft if they told me I shouldn't fill it up when travelling!

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited May 2016 #41

    If AS recommended only 25% for travelling I would sell it and give up. Although we will travel with only as much as we need it would be rather pointless to have a 100 litre tank and not be able to travel with it nearly full if needed. My 4x4 car takes 90
    litres of fuel. Be rather daft if they told me I shouldn't fill it up when travelling!

    I suppose it depends how well secured the fresh water tank is secured. 25kilos sloshing about could easily break flimsy fittings. .... I'd hope the fuel tank on your car was strapped in firmly Cool

  • hitchglitch
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    edited May 2016 #42

    If AS recommended only 25% for travelling I would sell it and give up. Although we will travel with only as much as we need it would be rather pointless to have a 100 litre tank and not be able to travel with it nearly full if needed. My 4x4 car takes 90
    litres of fuel. Be rather daft if they told me I shouldn't fill it up when travelling!

    I suppose it depends how well secured the fresh water tank is secured. 25kilos sloshing about could easily break flimsy fittings. .... I'd hope the fuel tank on your car was strapped in firmly Cool

    Most caravan tanks are not designed to hold water in transit - no baffles and no secure fixing. Water tanks on motorhomes are designed to be used in transit (or should be).

  • TonyIshUK
    TonyIshUK Forum Participant Posts: 296
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    edited May 2016 #43

     

    Most caravan tanks are not designed to hold water in transit - no baffles and no secure fixing. Water tanks on motorhomes are designed to be used in transit (or should be).

    Some m/home have reported leaks from loose tanks where the plastic was worn away by the tank rubbing the metal straps.  Possibily cases of partly filled tanks with water splashing around and causing movement rather that full tanks that are too heavy to move
    or empty so do not move. 

    wot I have learnt ;

    Check the mountings occasionally, AND the waste tank is often forgotten, although they tend to leak on the road.

    In common with unrestrained pets, 120 kg of tank can make a nasty mess even at low speed dead stops. 

    Why waste the empty space on return from foreign parts, 120 litres of wine, makes a whole new meaning of rosé toilet flush.

    Dont look in the tank, it might frighten you when you see the debris left by use of the water companies supplied water (also applies to the tank in the Attic. 

    Rgds

  • hitchglitch
    hitchglitch Forum Participant Posts: 3,007
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    edited May 2016 #44

    A wine tank! Great idea Tony.

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited May 2016 #45

    A wine tank! Great idea Tony.

    Would the wine then be on tap? Cool

  • ABM
    ABM Forum Participant Posts: 14,578
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    edited May 2016 #46

    WOW,  this  threads  been  running  for  three  months  now,  Time  to  empty  the  tank  &  flush  thro  then  refill  with  fresh  Wink!!

  • ROSCO
    ROSCO Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited May 2016 #47

    Hi, a lot of referance to full/half full tank and stability. Do you worry about a full or half full fuel tank ?? Does a half full tank of fuel effect the handling of your Motorhome ? i dont think so.

    The capacity of the fuel tank is about equal to your water capacity, i run with my water tank full it makes for a smoother more stable drive. But each to there own as they say.

  • young thomas
    young thomas Club Member Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited May 2016 #48

    im surprised that some manufacturers actually state running with low volumes of water.....why?

    have they under engineered their tanks compared to some others?

    i suspect these might also be the ones who have under engineered their payloads and now produce MIRO figures with an empty water tankUndecided

    fresh water tanks are generally irregular cuboid shapes, in order to reduce/eliminate any 'sloshing about'....whereas our old Bolero waste tank was just a large regular cuboid.....and don't remember any baffles inside it...

    our current van has the fresh and waste tanks between the double floors and are 'irregularly' shaped but fit neatly together so no wasted space and no 'sloshing' in fresh or waste....

    certainly, good design and engineering can minimise any 'momentum' concerns.....

    IMHO, MH are designed to carry water with them, in order to make use of its main design function.....pulling in spontaneously where a caravan cant.....

    having to travel 'empty' due to a manufacturer's recommendation, to me, says a lot about the manufacturer....Sad