How do you feel about paying a deposit on CL site

GrandmaMoley
GrandmaMoley Forum Participant Posts: 23
edited January 2016 in Certificated Locations #1

 

How do you feel about paying a deposit on a CL site?

I hope owners of CL's and members will give your view here?

Your thoughts remembering CL sites are only allowed 5 pitches so should not over book due to possible cancellations.

One night cancellation is 20% income lost.

Should a deposit be refunded?

Should a deposit be moved on for later in the year?

 

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  • bestboy
    bestboy Forum Participant Posts: 302
    edited January 2016 #2

    Totally in favour of non returnable deposits.

  • JoJo9
    JoJo9 Forum Participant Posts: 44
    edited January 2016 #3

    I'm amazed that more sites don't ask for a deposit. I'm happy to pay  twenty or thirty per cent.

  • Longtimecaravanner
    Longtimecaravanner Forum Participant Posts: 642
    edited January 2016 #4

    Having seen many times a pitch empty because the booker didn't turn up I can understand a CL asking for a deposit and would willingly pay.

  • rutlandwarrior
    rutlandwarrior Forum Participant Posts: 95
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    edited January 2016 #5

    Have had to change plans before now and lost deposits a couple of times but not a problem. I think cls should take a deposit for bookings made at least a month in advance as they are putting their faith in you turning up and a possible 20% loss of income
    if you don't. 

  • moulesy
    moulesy Forum Participant Posts: 9,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited January 2016 #6

    More than happy to pay a deposit for any sort of site, but particularly for CLs. Amazed really that we've only been asked at one CL. Happy

  • Wherenext
    Wherenext Club Member Posts: 10,607 ✭✭✭
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    edited January 2016 #7

    Just booked 3 sites for later in the year and asked each one if they wanted a deposit, which I would be happy to send, and each one said no, just let them know as early as possible if we can't make it. 

    Don't think there should be a hard and fast rule as the beauty of these sites are their individuality but do wonder how much they lose through non shows that don't let them know so they can re-let the pitch.

  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
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    edited January 2016 #8

    In order to protect the CL owner's income, I fully support a deposit of one night's fee. Given the relatively small amounts involved, this is a situation where accepting said deposits by PayPal would be handy.

  • Kennine
    Kennine Forum Participant Posts: 3,472
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    edited January 2016 #9

    Deposits, no problem, there should be non refundable deposits paid on both CLs and Club sites.  

    K

  • HelenandTrevor
    HelenandTrevor Forum Participant Posts: 3,221
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    edited January 2016 #10

    I have no problem with paying a deposit, only ever had to pay the equivalent of one night, which was happy with. Wouldn't want to pay any more than that, the last  few booked have just asked me tell them in plenty of time if we have to cancel.

     

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited January 2016 #11

    I have no problem with paying a deposit, only ever had to pay the equivalent of one night, which was happy with. Wouldn't want to pay any more than that, the last  few booked have just asked me tell them in plenty of time if we have to cancel.

     

    Same here. I can't blame a CL owner asking for a deposit, especially over a Bank Holiday period or in a very popular area. Last year we payed a deposit on only about 10% of the CLs that we stayed on.

  • fur ball
    fur ball Forum Participant Posts: 155
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    edited January 2016 #12

    I think asking for deposits is totally understandable, we stayed at a cl last October that was meant to be full every night, only full on the Saturday night, every other night there was at least two spaces and two nights we were on our own. I presume the
    rain had changed peoples mind which is fair enough but when we spoke to the owners they said that the people who hadn't turned up only one had  phoned to say they weren't coming. This cl takes a deposit so if it happens to them what chance have those who don't
    got.

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited January 2016 #13

     ..... the last  few booked have just asked me tell them in plenty of time if we have to cancel.

     

     ... and what is considered as plenty of time? I ask because the other year I booked a CL & paid a couple of nights fee as deposit. Circumstances meant that we then had to cancel, so I contacted the site months in advance. The reply was that I might get
    my deposit back if she could re-book those nights. Needless to say I got the square root of nothing back. Who knows whether she re-booked or not?Undecided Consequently
    I'd be very reluctant to send a deposit again ..... there's loads of CLs so if one is booked up, there'll be space at another.

  • Tirril
    Tirril Forum Participant Posts: 439
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    edited January 2016 #14

    I don't mind deposits but it is nice not having the faff of posting cheques.

  • OmegaDave
    OmegaDave Forum Participant Posts: 23
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    edited January 2016 #15

    As I'm happy to pay a deposit to the other place, I'd be happy to pay a deposit on Club Sites so to pay a deposit for CL's is just common sense. Cancellation, certainly with less than 2 weeks notice should forfeit deposit, more than 2 weeks forfeil 25%.

  • Oneputt
    Oneputt Club Member Posts: 9,144 ✭✭✭
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    edited January 2016 #16

    I don't have a problem with deposits but wish we could do it by bank transfer

  • ScaniaMan69
    ScaniaMan69 Forum Participant Posts: 75
    edited January 2016 #17

    In favour. I can't book a Thomas Cook holiday without paying a deposit, so it's no different to that.

    Needs clear terms and conditions though so both sides are clear on cancellation and refunds

    Russ

  • frontdoorlocked
    frontdoorlocked Forum Participant Posts: 12
    edited February 2016 #18

    More than happy to pay a deposit on both CL (and Club Sites), it makes the booking feel more secure somehow. Not like the time a couple of years ago when we turned up at a CL as a stopover on the way back from France and told by the rather rude owner that we were interrupting his dinner and our booking wasn't written down, even thoungh we rung twice a few weeks before to confirm Undecided he did let us stay though - reluctantly .

    As we have to book our holidays around school and work holidays our plans are made far in advance and dont tend to change. We've happily paid deposits on two CLs we are visiting this year with the bonus of paying either via PayPal or website payment gateway.

  • peedee
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    edited February 2016 #19

    I don't mind paying a deposit but I think it is up to each individual CL owner to decide if it is worth it. Those that decide it is would probably find the easiest solution is to make it clear it is non refundable.

    peedee

  • AndyNYorks
    AndyNYorks Forum Participant Posts: 144
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    edited February 2016 #20

    It has been shown that deposits do very little to reduce the number of no shows both at club sites and CLs. All they do is provide some compensation for the lost revenue but add an amount of administration. Judging by the number of CLs that don't ask for
    a deposit, I suspect most feel that the administration is not worth the benefit. I don't have a problem with paying a deposit but I think it is really a case for each individual CL owner to decide whether they are appropriate for them. When contacting a CL
    that I have not visited before I will usually ask if they would like a deposit.

  • 1Tracey1
    1Tracey1 Forum Participant Posts: 240
    edited February 2016 #21

    I don't mind paying a deposit at all.  In fact, the one time I did cancel with very little notice, I sent the CL owner the ammount for the weekend as I felt it was unfair on him not to turn up.

    However, having paid a deposit on two weeks in Cornwall, due to a change in jobs I asked if I could cancel and use the deposit for part payment later in the year as I coulnd't get time off work.  Despite it being four months before the holiday, the CL owner
    wouldn't even cosider this.  He was obviously well within his rights but it was disappointing.

  • Juschilling
    Juschilling Forum Participant Posts: 30
    edited February 2016 #22

    Just booked Overwater Marina CL for April and had to pay full cost!!

  • PATMAU
    PATMAU Forum Participant Posts: 250
    edited February 2016 #23

    Totally in favour of non returnable deposits.

    +1

  • CholseyGrange
    CholseyGrange Forum Participant Posts: 289
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    edited February 2016 #24

    We, and I'm guessing most other busy CL sites, welcome the support for deposits and understanding of why they are required which is evident on this thread.  Here at Cholsey Grange we take a deposit (50%).  As soon as we started doing it (about 4 years ago)
    our number of cancellations and no-shows fell dramatically.  Our policy is that we will refund a deposit if (a) we are given at least a week's notice and (b) we can re-fill the pitch.  It's a real faff when it happens - especially ahead of a busy weekend.
     Thankfully we rarely have to consider this as most of our guests honour the system.  As has been pointed out though, a cancellation is a 20% (or at least 10% if a deposit has been taken and not refunded) reduction in income.  Not only that, but on a busy
    weekend or bank-holiday you may have 'turned away' other Members who wanted to stay with you.  BTW we accept cheques and Bank Transfers and an increasing number of members seem happy to do a bank transfer.  Again, thank you Members for your understanding on
    this topic. 

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited February 2016 #25

     ....  Our policy is that we will refund a deposit if (a) we are given at least a week's notice and  .... 

    Much less than Tracy's 4 months & my similar notice Happy

  • FAT FARMER
    FAT FARMER Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited February 2016 #26

    CL owners now have the ability to check if a membership number is valid at the time of booking,  offenders should be reported to the club and dealt with under the same rules as club sites ?

     

  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited February 2016 #27

    I would gladly pay the full fee  for a CL when i book on condition that the cl does not have more than 5 vans on

  • Beverley65
    Beverley65 Forum Participant Posts: 7
    edited February 2016 #28

    Hi, I'm a new CL owner from the end of last summer and my first bookings were taken without a deposit - I trusted the people who booked - sadly all of them cancelled at short notice and with no deposits taken.  I started to ask for  a £10 deposit for a weekend
    or a £20 deposit for longer bookings and offered to receive them via BACS payment (which doesn't cost the sender or receiver) and it has worked very well - no problems (touch wood) encountered since then.  The booking I took yesterday for Easter weekend said
    he would pay in full and did it within the hour, happy days :-)

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,644 ✭✭✭
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    edited February 2016 #29

    Hi, I'm a new CL owner from the end of last summer and my first bookings were taken without a deposit - I trusted the people who booked - sadly all of them cancelled at short notice and with no deposits taken.  I started to ask for  a £10 deposit for a weekend
    or a £20 deposit for longer bookings and offered to receive them via BACS payment (which doesn't cost the sender or receiver) and it has worked very well - no problems (touch wood) encountered since then.  The booking I took yesterday for Easter weekend said
    he would pay in full and did it within the hour, happy days :-)

    Beverley, where is your CL? Perhaps you could put a link to your site on your postings to enable CT members to view it, and so you may get additional bookings.

  • rogher
    rogher Forum Participant Posts: 609
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    edited February 2016 #30

    I don’t mind how much I need to pay in advance. Just can’t be faffed with cheques and envelopes, though.

  • GrandmaMoley
    GrandmaMoley Forum Participant Posts: 23
    edited February 2016 #31

    I don’t mind how much I need to pay in advance. Just can’t be faffed with cheques and envelopes, though.

    That is understandable in this day and age with cheques and envelopes. But there are still many members without online bank accounts.

    Then there is the younger generation where some do not even know how to write a cheque. I saw this for myself a few weeks ago in an insurance company.(It made me feel VERY old)Laughing

    Cl's often get asked if they take credit/debit cards,but unless they have another business to run this with it would not be cost effective.

    It is more time consuming for a CL to take deposits and there are no special colums in the CL booking diary to write down the deposit and say cheque /direct to bank/paypal/cash etc and the amount.