Why not place caravan on pitch with motormover
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I think the desire to get the 'van onto the pitch right away may be grounded in a fear of being stationary on the racetrack (sorry, I mean roadway) in case the next chap to arrive learned walking "pace" from Dr Bannister. [Those under 50 years of age may
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I've got a motor mover but will always have a go reversIng on to a pitch if the peg is on the off side and I can see it, its about the only chance I get to practice reversing with the caravan.
Usually use the mover for final positioning, and would not be able to get it back into storage without the mover. Being on my own there's no chance of moving the caravan by hand and can't see the peg if it's on the nearside.
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My comment is purely as an observer, as when i last caravanned, motor movers had only just been invented, so never used one. If the MM, helps the not so skilled driver to posistion his/her caravan without driving over grass and chewing it up (a bit of a cheek coming from a motorhomer, i know.) Or having a hernia trying to push it into place, then I am all for them, a great invention, if i ever go back to caravanning i would definately insist on one being fitted and i would use it every time, im not proud.
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Women like to use motormovers, my wife was always spot on to the peg when driving the van using the MM.
Men on the other hand, at least among my caravanning friends and I, prefer to reverse the van on to the pitch using the towcar. (That's what the towcar is for after all.) Most of us experienced drivers can complete the manoeuvre to the peg every time.
I'm not claiming it's a gender thing --- but there again.
K
Donald? Is that you?
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Depends on the circumstances. If on cc site with Mrs One usually reverse on, if by myself reverse on pitch and then make final adjustment by MM, its a safety thing! If on a CL and van requires levelling blocks then usually use the MM. When in Europe, again it depends on pitch and whether i'm alone or not. Have to say I do relish the challenge, and satisfaction, or reversing but safety overrides pride!
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Women like to use motormovers, my wife was always spot on to the peg when driving the van using the MM.
Men on the other hand, at least among my caravanning friends and I, prefer to reverse the van on to the pitch using the towcar. (That's what the towcar is for after all.) Most of us experienced drivers can complete the manoeuvre to the peg every time.
I'm not claiming it's a gender thing --- but there again.
K
Donald? Is that you?
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Can't imagine ever using a front tow bar......imagine the tut tutting in the queue behind while you are faffing about re-hooking up the caravan......quite apart from the eyesore on the font of the car.
Also any insurance claim being refused and you having to sell your house to pay the claim when an injured pedestrian sues you for damages after convering your NCAP five star rating car for pedestrian safety to minus fifty.
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We use the mover on 90% of pitches. Only exception is some of the larger French sites where there is more to 'aim at'.
Can't imagine ever using a front tow bar......imagine the tut tutting in the queue behind while you are faffing about re-hooking up the caravan......quite apart from the eyesore on the font of the car.
Also any insurance claim being refused and you having to sell your house to pay the claim when an injured pedestrian sues you damages after convering your NCAP five star rating car for pedestrian safety to minus five.
..Not if they are fitted by a company that specialises in the instalation of such, and I would ask anyone to find the front hook when not in use
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Wait until a claims management company sees a front mounted towbar which is non standard and non complient with NACAP pedestrian safety no matter who fit it.
Presumably as you will have declared it to your insurance company as a modification and they will have accepted it, you will at least be covered by insurance.
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Wait until a claims management company sees a front mounted towbar which is non standard and non complient with NACAP pedestrian safety no matter who fit it.
...How does that then apply to cars that have front bars for towing behind M/vans ?
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Wait until a claims management company sees a front mounted towbar which is non standard and non complient with NACAP pedestrian safety no matter who fit it.
...How does that then apply to cars that have front bars for towing behind M/vans ?
I have often wondered that myself, especially when the towing loops are left sticking out at the front when not in use
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Wait until a claims management company sees a front mounted towbar which is non standard and non complient with NACAP pedestrian safety no matter who fit it.
Presumably as you will have declared it to your insurance company as a modification and they will have accepted it, you will at least be covered by insurance.
I wouldn't presume that it has been declared. Many don't inform about a rear towbar.
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Wait until a claims management company sees a front mounted towbar which is non standard and non complient with NACAP pedestrian safety no matter who fit it.
..They are completly legal as agreed by the vehicle manufacturers
Which manufactures exactly have agreed a front mounted towbar?
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Wait until a claims management company sees a front mounted towbar which is non standard and non complient with NACAP pedestrian safety no matter who fit it.
...How does that then apply to cars that have front bars for towing behind M/vans ?
I have often wondered that myself, especially when the towing loops are left sticking out at the front when not in use
It's probably not been tested in a court so far.
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Wait until a claims management company sees a front mounted towbar which is non standard and non complient with NACAP pedestrian safety no matter who fit it.
Presumably as you will have declared it to your insurance company as a modification and they will have accepted it, you will at least be covered by insurance.
I wouldn't presume that it has been declared. Many don't inform about a rear towbar.
...Many?
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Wait until a claims management company sees a front mounted towbar which is non standard and non complient with NACAP pedestrian safety no matter who fit it.
...How does that then apply to cars that have front bars for towing behind M/vans ?
Yes, claims management companies love this kind of thing.
Slightest thing and they are all over it.
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Wait until a claims management company sees a front mounted towbar which is non standard and non complient with NACAP pedestrian safety no matter who fit it.
...How does that then apply to cars that have front bars for towing behind M/vans ?
I have often wondered that myself, especially when the towing loops are left sticking out at the front when not in use
It's probably not been tested in a court so far.
..Same applys to many things
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Wait until a claims management company sees a front mounted towbar which is non standard and non complient with NACAP pedestrian safety no matter who fit it.
Presumably as you will have declared it to your insurance company as a modification and they will have accepted it, you will at least be covered by insurance.
I wouldn't presume that it has been declared. Many don't inform about a rear towbar.
...Many?
Yes.
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I wouldn't presume that it has been declared. Many don't inform about a rear towbar.
I think we would both agree that would be very unwise. Mine clearly states towbar fitted. I don't like insurance companies that just say yes that is covered in the general terms, which are about 99 pages long. Always best to have it clearly stated.
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Wait until a claims management company sees a front mounted towbar which is non standard and non complient with NACAP pedestrian safety no matter who fit it.
...How does that then apply to cars that have front bars for towing behind M/vans ?
I have often wondered that myself, especially when the towing loops are left sticking out at the front when not in use
It's probably not been tested in a court so far.
..Same applys to many things
Err, yes
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I wouldn't presume that it has been declared. Many don't inform about a rear towbar.
I think we would both agree that would be very unwise. Mine clearly states towbar fitted. I don't like insurance companies that just say yes that is covered in the general terms, which are about 99 pages long. Always best to have it clearly stated.
I agree. I have just gone through the meercat process and I insisted upon the rear towbar being listed on the shedule.
I don't trust insurance companies not to wriggle out of paying if they can and claims management companies are notorious for screwing the last penny out of anyone in their sights. Anyone injured from a non standard item sticking out the front of their carefully designied pedestrian friendly cars can contact one of these companies and then you can expect really bad day
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I wouldn't presume that it has been declared. Many don't inform about a rear towbar.
I think we would both agree that would be very unwise. Mine clearly states towbar fitted. I don't like insurance companies that just say yes that is covered in the general terms, which are about 99 pages long. Always best to have it clearly stated.
I agree. I have just gone through the meercat process and I insisted upon the rear towbar being listed on the shedule.
I don't trust insurance companies not to wriggle out of paying if they can and claims management companies are notorious for screwing the last penny out of anyone in their sights. anyone injured from a non standard item sticking out the front of thier carefully
designied pedestrian friendly cars can expect a bad day...Which only seems to apply to older car towing a frames,and the later ones of those now inboard to comply with the Ncap regs the same as front towbars
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EasyT. I understand your point in the OP, but I take a slightly different view. I think that it is essential that all caravanners retain the basic ability to be able to reverse and manouvre their Rig. I have often noticed that my abilty to place my van
is much greater at the end of a busy season than at the beginning. So it is for the reason of maintaining my skills that I will roughly place my van on the pitch in the first instance. But I will then use the MM to get it exactly where I want it and the
wheel lock aligned.But even though I am insistant that the ability to place the van yourself is maintained, I totally disagree with the attitude of JD6620 on page 2 who rejects all use of the MM. All I can say is that he/she has clearly never tried to get onto some impossibly
small French sites near the Med, or even some very tricky sites & CL's here. In those cases the MM is often the only way of placing the van other than using several people to manually push & pull!TF
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Back off topic
Never seen any NCAP regs relating to front towbars. Can you enlighten me please by providing a link?
Back on topic
I am enjoying reading why people choose not to use a MM when they have one fitted not arguing about front mounted towbars which have nothng to do with the topic we are/were discusing.
But hey ho! That's CT
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EasyT. I understand your point in the OP, but I take a slightly different view. I think that it is essential that all caravanners retain the basic ability to be able to reverse and manouvre their Rig. I have often noticed that my abilty to place my van is much greater at the end of a busy season than at the beginning. So it is for the reason of maintaining my skills that I will roughly place my van on the pitch in the first instance. But I will then use the MM to get it exactly where I want it and the wheel lock aligned.
But even though I am insistant that the ability to place the van yourself is maintained, I totally disagree with the attitude of JD6620 on page 2 who rejects all use of the MM. All I can say is that he/she has clearly never tried to get onto some impossibly small French sites near the Med, or even some very tricky sites & CL's here. In those cases the MM is often the only way of placing the van other than using several people to manually push & pull!
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Agree TF.
Maintaining one's skills is important but I have a play in a supermarket car park late on a sunday afternoon to do this. When wanting to pitch up I just use the mover and get it all done ASAP.
On some pitches (not CC) I sometimes put the caravan in sideways so that the awning faces into the pitch. Just not enough room to do this with a car on most pitches.
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