Are CLs strictly for 5 caravans

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  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Club Member Posts: 10,224
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    edited March 2016 #32

    I reported a serial overbooker last summer.

  • moulesy
    moulesy Forum Participant Trusted Posts: 9,412
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    edited March 2016 #33

    What's wrong with the CC website! It says you MUST be a CC member to stay (read a little further down), it's £16 to stay as a CC member or £13 if a CC member AND a NT member, with the option to join the NT whilst staying

    Yes, you're correct Dave. Further down there is indeed the standard message about CLs being exclusively for CC members, so mystery solved. Mind you, some will doubtless bemoan the fact that some CC members end up paying more than others! Wink

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  • JVB66
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    edited March 2016 #38

    Some say that I am confused; other say permanently so Happy.  But what is confusing about the following?
    Undecided.

    This morning we visited NT Stourhead, it is not too far from where we live and just a nice place to visit.  They have recently moved and upgraded their CL.  Nice position lovely surroundings, etc.

    I ask how much per night and was told NT members £16.50, CC Ltd. members £16.50, but if you are a member of both organisations £13.50.  Now, I thought CL were restricted to CC Ltd members only.  

    Are any of you CL aficionados able to explain the odd pricing and strange membership rules bearing in mind that even if you are not a member of either organisation you can still use NT Stourhead CL.

    ..First thing ,I do not understand the use of Stourhead cl by non members of either organisation?where did that come from or have i miised something?,

    Second   National trust members are allowed on any cc site or cl at cc members rates if they are on National trust property 

  • Vulcan
    Vulcan Club Member Posts: 670
    edited March 2016 #39

     

    I reported what I was told and I strongly resent your suggestion that it is not true.  

    Deleted UserUser, whilst not wishing to offend you, the fact is that what you were told regarding none members been allowed access to CC CL's is not true-

    Rule 1:  Visitors to your CL must be members of the Caravan Club (Club Rule) 

    This is a condition of your certificate, breach of which could also put your cover at risk should a claim arise under your public liability insurance.  All members carry a membership card, renewed annually on the anniversary date of joining, so please ask to
    see this as evidence of current membership.  Check the expiry date and note the member’s name, address, telephone number and membership number in your booking-in diary, just in case any queries arise.  Quite a lot of members complain to us that owners do not
    ask to see their cards.  They like to know that CLs are for their exclusive use! 

  • peedee
    peedee Club Member Posts: 9,499
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    edited March 2016 #40

    I expect those CLs in the cc/nt 'group' have slightly different 'entry' regs but are definitely 5 vans...

    Vulcan, I suspect BB is right, the NT is THE major land owner in this country and probably carries a lot of clout when it come to deciding who can and cannot use CLs on its land. JVB seems to confirm this.

    peedee

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  • peedee
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    edited March 2016 #42

    Have you seen
    >this thread<
    BB and Rowena's post on page 9?

    peedee

  • Vulcan
    Vulcan Club Member Posts: 670
    edited March 2016 #43

    Have you seen
    >this thread<
    BB and Rowena's post on page 9?

    peedee

    Yes,that sums it up I suppose-

    Operating the CL network is a privilege offered to The Club on specific conditions which include that they are intended solely for Caravan Club member’s recreational use only. As such all CL Sites are member only, without exception

  • peedee
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    edited March 2016 #44

    Have you seen
    >this thread<
    BB and Rowena's post on page 9?

    peedee

    Yes,that sums it up I suppose-

    Operating the CL network is a privilege offered to The Club on specific conditions which include that they are intended solely for Caravan Club member’s recreational use only. As such all CL Sites are member only, without exception

    Nevertheless you cannot help wonder about this in some cases. The NT seems to have a special relationship with the Club. I can hardly see the Club rapping the NT's knuckles over non CC members who are NT members using a CL.

    peedee

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  • bevwardle
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    Are you willing to name the site, bev, so that we can avoid it in the future?

    I don't want to put people off going, but it was Bridge End on the outside of Durham, the site does get good reviews hence me booking in the first place, but I must say I was quite offended by her comment and will not be trying again.

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  • moulesy
    moulesy Forum Participant Trusted Posts: 9,412
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    edited March 2016 #48

    I think Ro's got more pressing matters to attend to just now, BB! Wink

  • Metheven
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    edited March 2016 #49

    I was hoping 'SandieG' the staff CL expert was going to show herself with an explanation, after all she did introduce herself under Ro's thread as a Community Champion.

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  • moulesy
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    edited March 2016 #51

    I think Ro's got more pressing matters to attend to just now, BB! Wink

    of course, shes off touring somewhereWink

    and, 'Ro' is a generic for CC input......

    Or, of course, could just be Ro(chelle)! Happy

  • JayEss
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    edited March 2016 #52

    The
    website
    says

    Caravan Club site at Stourhead

    This is a great way to get outdoors and enjoy Stourhead. We have pitches available for Caravan Club members, with water and electricity, and within walking distance to the gardens and house.

     

    I can't find anything about NT members on that so perhaps they are just doing their own thing
    Surprised

     

     

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  • eurortraveller
    eurortraveller Club Member Posts: 6,868
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    edited March 2016 #54

    Sure I will explain. It's supposed to be a small site just for CC members, but like many other small sites in that category the rule isn't always adhered to.  Some Club members get upset about this, others take things in their stride. Life goes on. 

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,992
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    edited March 2016 #55

    Are you willing to name the site, bev, so that we can avoid it in the future?

    I don't want to put people off going, but it was Bridge End on the outside of Durham, the site does get good reviews hence me booking in the first place, but I must say I was quite offended by her comment and will not be trying again.

    Thanks, bev, we'll give that site a miss too.

  • Vulcan
    Vulcan Club Member Posts: 670
    edited March 2016 #56

     I reported what I was told and I strongly resent your suggestion that it is not true.  

    Deleted UserUser, whilst not wishing to offend you, the fact is that what you were told regarding none members been allowed access to CC CL's is not true-

    Rule 1:  Visitors to your CL must be members of the Caravan Club (Club Rule) 
    This is a condition of your certificate, breach of which could also put your cover at risk should a claim arise under your public liability insurance.  All members carry a membership card, renewed annually on the anniversary date of joining, so please ask to see this as evidence of current membership.  Check the expiry date and note the member’s name, address, telephone number and membership number in your booking-in diary, just in case any queries arise.  Quite a lot of members complain to us that owners do not ask to see their cards.  They like to know that CLs are for their exclusive use! 

    What I was told and wrote was specific to Stourhead.  Other posts seem to have shown it is probably correct as it is entirely possible that the NT has a different form of licence and or an exemption.  It is not always safe to generalise.  

    I appreciate that you took the information you were given in good faith,having contacted the CL in question it is clear that you have to be a CC member to use the CL even if you are a NT member.Quote "We can only take you if you are a Caravan Club member as it is their licenced site which I run for them". Whoever gave you the idea that the CL could be used by non members was mistaken.

  • eurortraveller
    eurortraveller Club Member Posts: 6,868
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    edited March 2016 #57

    Sure I will explain. It's supposed to be a small site just for CC members, but like many other small sites in that category the rule isn't always adhered to.  Some Club members get upset about this, others take things in their stride. Life goes on. 

     As was said. the rules will continue to be broken, and some will continue to get upset. 

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  • Vulcan
    Vulcan Club Member Posts: 670
    edited March 2016 #59

    CC Ltd allows anyone to use their main sites so why the restriction of no non-members on CL's?

    Due to the fact that Caravan Club sites require planning permission certain local authorities insist on them been available to non members, however many Caravan Club sites are members only.

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,992
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    edited March 2016 #60

    CC Ltd allows anyone to use their main sites so why the restriction of no non-members on CL's?

    The planning regulations that apply to CLs, & CS's, state that the persons that use them must be a member of the club/association that issues the licence.