Rallies on Club Sites
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Goodness, FD, you'll burn yourself out.
Deep breath and relaxxx.
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Oh!! What a fine can of worms I opened up with my OP.
FD all I really wanted was for the club to publish rally dates on the specific site's web pages. I'm sorry if I've raised your blood pressure.
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Oh!! What a fine can of worms I opened up with my OP.
FD all I really wanted was for the club to publish rally dates on the specific site's web pages. I'm sorry if I've raised your blood pressure.
Write your comments here...You have nothing to be sorry for NTH. your thead was interesting and thought provoking. Most posters contributed valid and relevant thoughts. It's not your fault that certain posters started flinging their toys out of the pram.
Good thread - Well done.
K
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I have no problem at all with people chosing to go as a group (which I guess is all that a rally is?) provided they behave themselves and don't make a noise (same applies to people going on their own, by the way)......and pay the same rates as the rest of
us.Trouble is, it appears that the latter isn't the case and the rally people want special treatment on prices......
Just to add that we've only ever come across two rallys - one in the UK on a Club site and once in France. Other than them being told where they must pitch (I suppose some people must like being told what they must do and when) they made no difference to
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Like Ian I came across a rally in France too.
People with guitars and an accordion singing in the open air, drinking too, and a general party atmosphere. It was lovely - and if a rally on a Club site brought that sort of fun it would be a fair old improvement to the overall silence - punctuated only by faint sound of the Coronation Street tune. Bring it on.
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We've rallied on a club site and as IanH siad, it was because we wanted to be part of a group. We'd been to the site independanly before and enjoyed it but a rally is more sociable. We were allocated an area of the site and it was in low season. The difference in cost was tiny - about £1,50 in total but the company of other ralliers was priceless.
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Surely it's not beyond the wit of the CC and their antiquated IT system to match Rally dates for a particular site with an individual making a booking on the same site during the period of the Rally, (drop down info box comes to mind). That was what Nellie
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The info for race days helps bookings because of non entry on particular days and people can work around this if they want to be on a site. This helps to keep bookings rather than lose them. If a handful of people on here are worried about the "horror" of
being on a site with ralliers it's better if they check out the "what's on" area in the Centre Section on here. I don't regard CC rallies as a horror or something that would make me leave a site and this discussion only represents a few who prefer to be on
their own on sites or amongst a small amount of vans. Meathop Fell has 116 pitches so a group of thirty taking up a small area is hardly overcrowding or overwhelming0 -
Goodness, FD, you'll burn yourself out.
Deep breath and relaxxx.
I am perfectly relaxed thank you TW, my point is that by publishing the fact that there is a rally on during your booking, they are fueling the assumption of some members (especially if they have read some of the opinions on here) that all rallies are rowdy parties bound to disturb and upset fellow members wanting a quiet break, heaven help the ralliers who have booked this event for a quiet break too !!!
No toys thrown from any prams round here simply wishing to redress the balance regarding general rally behaviour.
Alison
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I did say earlier that I've been on the Buxton site at the same time as a rally and found no problem at all. No rowdiness, no difference between the ralliers and other users.
There are all sorts of reasons why sites may be unexpectedly busy in the off season but I'm glad to see them used. It's all money in the pot
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Goodness, FD, you'll burn yourself out.
Deep breath and relaxxx.
I am perfectly relaxed thank you TW, my point is that by publishing the fact that there is a rally on during your booking, they are fueling the assumption of some members (especially if they have read some of the opinions on here) that all rallies are rowdy
parties bound to disturb and upset fellow members wanting a quiet break, heaven help the ralliers who have booked this event for a quiet break too !!!No toys thrown from any prams round here simply wishing to redress the balance regarding general rally behaviour.
Alison
Really? I never picked up the slightest hint of anyone suggesting rallies could be rowdy but merely that the presence of a lot of people is bound to increase footfall and traffic. I don't think you need to defend anything at all. There is no assumption other
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I think there were plenty of "hints" on here about the behaviour of ralliers, there have been some provocative remarks and the balance needs to be made. All pitches taken increase the footfall and traffic, whether
they are ralliers or not. Alison was quite right to point out that ralliers like quiet breaks too.0 -
I am trying to get my head around what is so unreasonable about a request to put a bit of extra information on a website page. Which is all the OP asked for, and I supported. As I have said in my posts, I have no issues whatsoever with rallies on Club Sites,
don't care a jot what they pay, or if they use facilities. They are indeed just members, perhaps with a shared interest, maybe not. I only use Club Sites at times I expect to be quiet, my preference. If I choose to go at a busy time, I accept what or who
might be happening on site and get on with it. I doubt if anything at all will come of this request, but it has just prompted me to ask a question when I book a Club Site in the future. I already ask how busy a site is when I book normally, no great change
for me. I do the same with CLs as well. My very limited experience of rallies on Club Sites has been what I mentioned earlier, no issues other than an unexpected amount of people gathering around a caravan on the adjacent pitches.0 -
Well said, TDA. This thread isn't about any imaginary pro/anti rally stance and no one needs to defend a viewpoint. There is merely a suggestion being made for information to be added to a webpage. Like all information, it could be used for more than one
purpose and might actually boost the numbers attending rallies.0 -
Most rally programmes start at the beginning of the year, the club booking day starts in December and also has bookings ahead till March. So the feasibilty of providing information lessens due to pre-booking. It is much easier just to check the "whats on" area for dates. Sometimes rallies get cancelled, will people be booking, cancelling and then re-booking?
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Now I have found it Brue, I will check it on the odd occasion we think about a Club Site. Not likely to be many on Club Sites I appreciate, and in 32 years touring we have only come across one!
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BPS
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Surely it's not beyond the wit of the CC and their antiquated IT system to match Rally dates for a particular site with an individual making a booking on the same site during the period of the Rally, (drop down info box comes to mind).
Wanna bet?
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Surely as the main thing people are asking for is to know if the site is full or not, it would be easier to put a counter on the availability page, showing how many pitches are left.
Way, way beyond the ability of the CC IT staff, I'm afraid.
We are talking here about a large team of people for whom a spell-checker is seen as an impossibility.....
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Most rally programmes start at the beginning of the year, the club booking day starts in December and also has bookings ahead till March. So the feasibilty of providing information lessens due to pre-booking. It is much easier just to check
the "whats on" area for dates. Sometimes rallies get cancelled, will people be booking, cancelling and then re-booking?The rally programme for each centre is worked out well before the start of the year, and I would guess, as I've never thought to check, that it is published on line well before too. It would seem sensible to me for the sites to show "what's on" on their
web page, then visitors can decide if they want to use that site or not. I would suspect that it will never happen as the club could possibly loose booking on those dates, or at least some income with prospective visitors booking onto the rally instead of
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Way, way beyond the ability of the CC IT staff, I'm afraid.
We are talking here about a large team of people for whom a spell-checker is seen as an impossibility.....
To be fair, I don't suppose the 'large team of people' are software writers and have to go with the 'off the shelf' package that was purchased (20 years ago?).
I have to say though that it is, by a country mile of narrow lanes, the most out-dated, clunky, and user-unfriendly message board/web site of three or four that I use regularly. Two of which are much much smaller organisations than the Caravan and Motorhomers
Advertising and Investment Group plc.0 -
Some centre programmes start listing rallies quite early for the following year, but not all. The club releases site bookings for after the New Year til March at a date later in the summer, then releases the whole year ahead in December, how much should the CC and Rally Centres (volunteers) be expected to do for those who don't want to share a site with a very occasional rally. Seems like a lot of work to me that wouldn't always tie up in real time when things gets changed or cancelled.
The alternative, apart from checking "what's on" is to ring the site and ask, "is there a rally due here ?"
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If anyone really doesn't want to phone the site, but would rather check on the website it is simply a matter of going to the rally search page and entering the dates and site name and clicking 'search' ! It really isn't rocket science.
Alison
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It is not just club centres that have rallies on club sites. As a member of a club for people who camp alone, a group of us will book individually onto sites. Two weeks ago 19 of us were at Melrose. It is better for us and for other campers if we can all
be together in one part of the site. It is easier for us to socialise and less disruptive for other members. We get no special rates or treatment.0 -
Surely as the main thing people are asking for is to know if the site is full or not, it would be easier to put a counter on the availability page, showing how many pitches are left.
Way, way beyond the ability of the CC IT staff, I'm afraid.
We are talking here about a large team of people for whom a spell-checker is seen as an impossibility.....
I can't see why it should be beyond the team they have setting up the new web site. It is fairly basic information and must be available within the system, otherwise you would be able to book a pitch when the site is full. Surely if you highlight a date
the system must be aware of what pitches are available on that date.0
