Cycle Paths
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Kennine, there is a difference between cycle lanes and cycle paths. I agree cycle lanes have not been thought out , in some cases the original road is not really wide enough to accept another lane. Also the parking on cycle lanes is idiotic but what does
todays motorist do , many do not have drives to park in. But a cycle path is divided from the road using an original footpath without any of the above problems.0 -
Kennine, That was a very good summary of what we here in Bristol have been trying to do, - read my earlier comments.
However there is evidence here too that ealier admiinistrations - of all colours did not include the cycling bodies before spreading the white paint about. We had one section of a road that had a cycle lane 40 yards long before it just stopped!
Today I belive we have got it much better and include the local cycling forums in all our consultations PRIOR to drawing up plans.
TF
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When I used to commute to work by bike, part of it was a joint pedestrian/cycle path. It was unusable because the schoolchildren would walk four or five abreast on it.
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When I used to commute to work by bike, part of it was a joint pedestrian/cycle path. It was unusable because the schoolchildren would walk four or five abreast on it.
But this is surely the problem ?
What bright spark thought that it was a good idea for cyclists to share a space with pedestrians ( and their dogs ), separated by only a painted line on the ground ?
Sheer madness, given the relative differences in speed. Possibly OK for the cyclist who wishes to bimble along at walking pace, but we get the lycra Bradley Wiggins brigade belting along on crowded footpaths, silently approaching from behind.
Similar argument to cyclists having to share the road with motor vehicles, I suppose.
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Driving home today , four Lycra Cyclists holding up the traffic , riding on the road at the side of a cycle path.
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The local council are to create a footpath into a cycle path / footpath at a cost of £ 310,000 . Just hope the cyclists use it ?
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Makes you wonder why it costs so much. Where does it go - Lands End to John o Groats?
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Makes you wonder why it costs so much. Where does it go - Lands End to John o Groats?
1KM
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It will almost certainly involve widening the path and replacing curb stones etc. Such matters involve a lot of labour and do not come cheaply. However the good news is that it is almost certainly being done on the back of a Govt initiative to promote cycling
Nationally, and will attract Govt grant aid towards it. So HH, it will not adversly affect your local rates as much as you think.TF
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Makes you wonder why it costs so much. Where does it go - Lands End to John o Groats?
1KM
So the streets are paved with gold then.
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The local council are to create a footpath into a cycle path / footpath at a cost of £ 310,000 . Just hope the cyclists use it ?
Cycle Path just finished , final price for one km, £300,000 my thoughts above.
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Actually I find the main problem with cycle paths is that they are designed by people who don't ride cycles and have no idea how they work. They often cause more danger for all road users than cycles would have staying on the road! A lot of them are placed
in positions where the Highway Code explicitly says it's not safe to cross the road (near to a junction or roundabout) or 'feed' cycles back onto the road where it isn't appropriate or safe. One near me would have cycles having to 'stop and dismount' every
50 metres, when staying on the road they can continue and have the right of way. Oddly I've never seen a junction where drivers are told to get out and push their cars round the corner?0 -
£300k for one km of cycle path just demonstrates the stupidity and profligacy of council staff and councillors.
I would never use a cycle path, because I have a road bike. It has very narrow tyres that are easily punctured, so why would I want to ride on a litter and broken glass strewn, overgrown path at the side of the road?
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I use cycle paths where possible and most certainly avoid main roads, But I cheat by using pavements on occasions too. Many pavements seem to have been created in a era when children weren't driven to school and pedestrians were commonplace. Usage had evolved
since then, which gives rise to the possibility of allowing bicycles on underused pavements, subject to appropriate care, consideration and speed restraint.0 -
£300k for one km of cycle path just demonstrates the stupidity and profligacy of council staff and councillors.
I would never use a cycle path, because I have a road bike. It has very narrow tyres that are easily punctured, so why would I want to ride on a litter and broken glass strewn, overgrown path at the side of the road?
Ian, you could always grab by the neck, your local, friendly, door knocking councillors come election time and force them, barefooted, to walk the walk as well as talking the talk . { please forgive the horrible jargon
}If nothing else the ensuing court case would give your point of view loads of publicity !
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Sorry Lycra Men, but I think this kind of money Should be spent elsewhere. I cannot see that these paths are used , especially where I live.
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Sorry Lycra Men, but I think this kind of money Should be spent elsewhere. I cannot see that these paths are used , especially where I live.
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Is it necessary to be pointlessly rude? Lycra isn't my choice of attire either, but it's sensible for keen/ long distance cycling. You have criticised the cost of cycle paths at £300/ running metre but you haven't told us where you'd like the money spent instead. At Specsavers perhaps, to remedy myopia over the use of healthier forms of local transport than cars.
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Sorry Lycra Men, but I think this kind of money Should be spent elsewhere. I cannot see that these paths are used , especially where I live.
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Is it necessary to be pointlessly rude? Lycra isn't my choice of attire either, but it's sensible for keen/ long distance cycling. You have criticised the cost of cycle paths at £300/ running metre but you haven't told us where you'd like the money spent
instead. At Specsavers perhaps, to remedy myopia over the use of healthier forms of local transport than cars.Write your comments here...
sorry if I have upset you Jenny, but it makes my blood boil when the cycle paths which obviously cost a lot of money are not used. Surely some cycle association must have pressured for them because councils don't just spend on their own accord. As for the
Lycra this , where I live seems to now be the norm and I was addressing the cyclists that could use the path on my post. The money could be used to fill potholes and fix general road repairs. So please accept my apologies once again.0 -
Sorry Lycra Men, but I think this kind of money Should be spent elsewhere. I cannot see that these paths are used , especially where I live.
Write your comments here...
Is it necessary to be pointlessly rude? Lycra isn't my choice of attire either, but it's sensible for keen/ long distance cycling. You have criticised the cost of cycle paths at £300/ running metre but you haven't told us where you'd like the money spent
instead. At Specsavers perhaps, to remedy myopia over the use of healthier forms of local transport than cars.Write your comments here...
sorry if I have upset you Jenny, but it makes my blood boil when the cycle paths which obviously cost a lot of money are not used. Surely some cycle association must have pressured for them because councils don't just spend on their own accord. As for the
Lycra this , where I live seems to now be the norm and I was addressing the cyclists that could use the path on my post. The money could be used to fill potholes and fix general road repairs. So please accept my apologies once again.Write your comments here...
Not a problem Hosta. I guess that if money was only spent on essentials, we'd be poorer in terms of art, theatre and many other things which are part of advanced civilisations. All of our lighting at home is led, for which we'll never recover the cost,
but in its own small way it's a contribution towards a greener planet. Cycling too is a green option and a healthy one too. Maybe, through a little cycling I'll save the NHS a few pounds in remedial healthcare. Having been knocked off my bike more than once
by unobservent motorists, I'm unenthusiastic to leave cycle paths. It's always a pleasure to visit cycle cities like Cambridge, Oxford and Amsterdam. Perhaps you should take it up - Lycra isn't compulsory.0 -
Sorry Lycra Men, but I think this kind of money Should be spent elsewhere. I cannot see that these paths are used , especially where I live.
Write your comments here...
Is it necessary to be pointlessly rude? Lycra isn't my choice of attire either, but it's sensible for keen/ long distance cycling. You have criticised the cost of cycle paths at £300/ running metre but you haven't told us where you'd like the money spent instead. At Specsavers perhaps, to remedy myopia over the use of healthier forms of local transport than cars.
Write your comments here...
sorry if I have upset you Jenny, but it makes my blood boil when the cycle paths which obviously cost a lot of money are not used. Surely some cycle association must have pressured for them because councils don't just spend on their own accord. As for the Lycra this , where I live seems to now be the norm and I was addressing the cyclists that could use the path on my post. The money could be used to fill potholes and fix general road repairs. So please accept my apologies once again.
Write your comments here...
Not a problem Hosta. I guess that if money was only spent on essentials, we'd be poorer in terms of art, theatre and many other things which are part of advanced civilisations. All of our lighting at home is led, for which we'll never recover the cost, but in its own small way it's a contribution towards a greener planet. Cycling too is a green option and a healthy one too. Maybe, through a little cycling I'll save the NHS a few pounds in remedial healthcare. Having been knocked off my bike more than once by unobservent motorists, I'm unenthusiastic to leave cycle paths. It's always a pleasure to visit cycle cities like Cambridge, Oxford and Amsterdam. Perhaps you should take it up - Lycra isn't compulsory.
...No thanks ...But quite fancy the Lycra though ..................
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Driving through Cardiff today in an area known as Llanishen on a very long busy road , there are many office blocks houses and a large school with park and leisure centre
Over a number of mths they have been making alterations to the road and pavement both sides all in aide of giving the public lovely wide cycle tracks , great for drivers and cyclist , what a laugh absolutely full for at least 3/4.mile both sides full of cars parked half in cycle lane half on pavement
leaving no room at all for cyclist. what was the point !Do they inspect these cycle paths
surely the cars can be booked by police I'm not a fan of cyclist on main roads but when they are given there own lane Surely they have the right to use them and not expect them completely blocked by cars 0 -
Driving along the main road with cycle lane on my nearside. Had to overtake a cyclist who was ignoring the cycle lane and riding on the road.
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Don't blame him / her af all. It's exactly what I would do.
Ian
Just out of interest why would you choose the road rather than an adjacent cycleway especially if it was designed as a cycle way rather than being a shared footpath?
David
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In todays modern "give no quarter" traffic conditions the more that can be done to make things Safer for other users should be applauded,
We have cycle paths and joint cycle pedestian paths to nearly all areas where we live,but do the mostly lycra clothed "persons" use them ,of course not,
The laws need ammending to make it an offence for Cyclists to use any other area of road, that has a designated path/area adjacent for their specific use
Also make it a points on licence and fine for any vehicle that obstucts such cycle ways
If it can be done for Bus lanes then it should also done for cycleways
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I imagine cyclists use the road because they feel they can make better progress unrestricted by the obstacles generally found on urban cycle routes? And they have right of way on the road over cycle routes.
David
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these things are done for your safety yet you want to willingly and obstructively play with the traffic
