Dogs being banned from public parks

Kennine
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edited October 2016 in Your Pets #1

Apparently some councils are banning dogs from public parks according to the Telegraph on- line. .  

As a dog owner myself, I can understand their reasoning behind the ban. -- Children play games in the parks - Some owners allow their dogs to foul the grass and just walk away.-- Do we want children and adults being contaminated by dog faeces.while playing in the park -- NO. 

It is not unknown for owners to take their dogs on to municiple football pitches to let them poo. This results in the parents having to spend time collecting the dog poo from the soccer pitch before their children's football match can commence. 

Always best to exercise dogs in the open countryside. 

Responsible dog ownership is to be recommended.

 

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  • lindenlea
    lindenlea Forum Participant Posts: 15
    edited October 2016 #2

    It is unresponsible dog owners who spoil it for responsible dog owners.

  • JCB4X4
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    edited November 2016 #3

    "Apparently some councils are banning dogs from public parks according to the Telegraph on- line. . "

    and this is News?Frown

  • volvoman9
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    edited November 2016 #4

    The locol primary school where i take my grandchildren does,nt allow dogs anywhere on the premises.They have to be tied up at the gates.

    v9

  • ABM
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    edited November 2016 #5

    V9,  thats  probably  to  protect  the  dogs  tho   Wink

  • madhouse4
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    edited November 2016 #6

    My thoughts are that dogs should be kept on leads, we had about overcome my daughters fear of dogs, when a dog not on a lead bounced at her and knocked her over, now we are back to square one, admittingly the dog was only being playful but it still didn't
    help my daughter

  • Rubytuesday
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    edited November 2016 #7

    All dogs should be banned from all schools , and as far as I'm concerned you are a bad dog owner if you you think otherwise, as for parks surely it depends on size yes keep them on lead until you are in an area where there are no children's activities such
    as play park , paddling pool  ect 

    we have noticed now lots of parks have no council official (park keepers ) to enforce these rules so it comes down to good or bad dog owners 

  • madhouse4
    madhouse4 Forum Participant Posts: 129
    edited November 2016 #8

    To be honest my thoughts are dogs should be kept on a lead everywhere, daughter was walking down railway line with my wife when it happened

  • young thomas
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    edited November 2016 #9

    To be honest my thoughts are dogs should be kept on a lead everywhere, daughter was walking down railway line with my wife when it happened

    I'd watch out for the trains, too....Sad

    seriously, as a child i was bitten on the face by a dog at a petrol station (owner's dog) back in the late fifties....this haunted me for many years but i really dont have a problem with being in close contact with dogs these days.....but on my own terms....

    i dont what anyones dog just running at me and jumping up without the owner being there and in conteol... 

    im not frightened by it (more the contrary these days) but its about control and other folk might be less tolerant than me, especially with young children about.Happy

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2016 #10

    Some of the problems that arise,with what some people peceive as a problem with dogs,is down to the way some parents react when a dog aproaches them, by either pulling their child away?Undecided (making
    the child nervouse) or just letting the child run towards the dog without the sense to ask firstUndecided,

  • Lenchen
    Lenchen Forum Participant Posts: 47
    edited November 2016 #11

    If the councils are banning dogs from public parks, perhaps they could think about banning gangs of youths who vandalise and leave all sorts of nasty litter lying around in public parks.

  • dmiller555
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    edited November 2016 #12

    There is only one way to sort this out; ban everything. 

  • JCB4X4
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    edited November 2016 #13

    For a nation that has lost so many of its citizens (and that of other nations) in the cause of Freedom, we British aren’t half fond of Banning things.   Worried

  • EmilysDad
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    edited November 2016 #14

    Some of the problems that arise,with what some people peceive as a problem with dogs,is down to the way some parents react when a dog aproaches them, by either pulling their child away?Undecided (making
    the child nervouse) or just letting the child run towards the dog without the sense to ask firstUndecided,

    Exactly .... passing their fears on to their kids, whether that be of dogs or anything else.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited November 2016 #15

    Parents passing on their fears?  Well, with 7227 people in a year in UK needing medical attention following dog bites they may have some justification for their fears. 

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2016 #16

    Parents passing on their fears?  Well, with 7227 people in a year in UK needing medical attention following dog bites they may have some justification for their fears. 

    ..And when the real facts surface,instead of the usual media "facts" it normally turns out to be not the dog that was at fault

  • madhouse4
    madhouse4 Forum Participant Posts: 129
    edited November 2016 #17

    Passing fear is not necessarily from the parents, my daughter was effected before she came to live us, we was just overcoming her fear when the dog came running up to her and knocked her down, I admit the dog was not been vicious but play full and young,
    but it's still set her back to square one, when we have to pass one she is nervous, if a dog is on a lead the owner can keep it under control 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited November 2016 #18

    One Saturday afternoon a few summers back while walking with Molly the Mutt, this woman was a little put out because when she asked me to put Molly on a lead because her 'kids were frightened of dogs' I said no. Molly was paying them no attention at all
    anyway. I also suggested that a public country park was maybe the last place to bring someone that was frightened of dogs, as there would likely be loads of them around and about, & if I'd had even the slightest of doubts about Molly, she'd have already been
    on a lead.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited November 2016 #19

    The Dogs Trust is working with psychologists to help children (and parents) who are frightened around dogs. They have some good guidance for parents and dog owners. Sorry cannot do link to website, but "Dogs Trust" and "frightened children" should get anyone
    interested to the information.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited November 2016 #20

    Perhaps the psycholgists can work with postmen too. It 's worth asking Google how many postmen are bitten by dogs - nine every single day was the last figure I saw - that's about 3000 a year according to figures from their trade union. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited November 2016 #21

    Don't need a psychologist for that one. Loyal dog guarding house, along comes a person never admitted to house, cue dog doing its loyal duty. 

    No one disputes there are less than intelligent dog owners. Same with all walks of life. People do strange things, sadly someone often gets hurt. Not the fault of the dog. 

    But none of this has anything to do with an parks article in gutter press does it, reposted to generate bad feeling between those who like dogs, and those who don't.

  • volvoman9
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    edited November 2016 #22

    One Saturday afternoon a few summers back while walking with Molly the Mutt, this woman was a little put out because when she asked me to put Molly on a lead because her 'kids were frightened of dogs' I said no. Molly was paying them no attention at all
    anyway. I also suggested that a public country park was maybe the last place to bring someone that was frightened of dogs, as there would likely be loads of them around and about, & if I'd had even the slightest of doubts about Molly, she'd have already been
    on a lead.

    Its an interesting post MM but one i find a little disturbing.The park was opened for people to use which includes children so i dont think suggesting its not a great place for those that are afraid of dogs is very helpful.The lady in question may have been
    a bit over concerned i dont know but i can understand it all the same.What i think some pet owner fail to realise is that if something should happen the repercussions can be very serious for all concerned and it only takes one incident and that park will seriously
    concider banning pets altogether.You will no doubt know your pet very well but could you be 100% sure about the pet in any given situation ?.Because if he or she is not on a lead in theory you have no control at all over the dog and its this that i think other
    members of the public are concerned about especially where children are concerned.

    v9

  • Oneputt
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    edited November 2016 #23

    The majority of owners believe they have control over their dogs when they are off the leash but the fact is a very large proportion don't so that should be the starting point.  When in a public park the dog should be on the lead, no exceptions

  • volvoman9
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    edited November 2016 #24

    The majority of owners believe they have control over their dogs when they are off the leash but the fact is a very large proportion don't so that should be the starting point.  When in a public park the dog should be on the lead, no exceptions

    I can remember when i was young how dogs literally ran round in packs and nobody knew who owned them but as we know things have changed drastically since then for a number very unfortunate reasons and events.What i fail to understand are the risks that some
    pet owners are prepared too take just to satisfy their pet and also they dont seem to think they are doing anything that could possibly prove dangerous to others.IMO these days its just too much of a risk.

    v9

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2016 #25

    I think so much depends on the dog. I've had dogs I could trust implicitly to obey commands off a lead and others I'd not trust to respond to recall when any distraction is present.

    It's down to the owners to differentiate and use leads accordingly. Whether the owners can be trusted to apply common sense and act responsibly is, of course, another matter entirely.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited November 2016 #26

     .....You will no doubt know your pet very well but could you be 100% sure about the pet in any given situation ?.Because if he or she is not on a lead in theory you have no control at all over the dog and its this that i think
    other members of the public are concerned about especially where children are concerned.

    v9

    Yes, if I had any doubt at all, she'd be on a lead. My grand daughter is 10 months old and Molly knows her place in the pecking order ie below that of Chloe. the worse that could happen is Chloe gets a lick on the face .... what her Mum & Dad (my son) doesn't
    see ... Wink

  • KASTARIS
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    edited November 2016 #27

    And this is one of  the reasons what puts me off getting another dog...before long there will be a total ban on everything to do with dogs..ban in parks..beaches.. roaming free in their own garden. And as far as dogs attack..yes they do but many children
    torment.. an animal will only put up with so much before it retaliates same as us humans. I would dearly love another dog so would our grandchildren like us to get another but the pleasure of ownership is slowly being taken away
    Sad 

  • yetisdad
    yetisdad Forum Participant Posts: 30
    edited November 2016 #28

     the worse that could happen is Chloe gets a lick on the face .... 

    MM, all dog owners think their dogs are trust worthy but what is your opinion of this?    

    Apologies cannot get the link to work, try this -

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3889240/He-perfect-babysitter-Owners-world-s-biggest-pitbull-allow-twelve-stone-dog-snap-s-arm-like-toothpick-look-newborn-son.html

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2016 #29

    As Martin Clunes said in the Programme about Dogs ,what ever dog you have its decended from wolves,we were at Cherry Hinton a few years back and there was c/van owner with a real wolf on site and it was happy soft and stupid Surprised

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2016 #30

     the worse that could happen is Chloe gets a lick on the face .... 

    MM, all dog owners think their dogs are trust worthy but what is your opinion of this?    

    Apologies cannot get the link to work, try this -

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3889240/He-perfect-babysitter-Owners-world-s-biggest-pitbull-allow-twelve-stone-dog-snap-s-arm-like-toothpick-look-newborn-son.html

    It was only a matter of timeLaughing

    I think we all know that's hardly a typical scenario but I'm not surprised at all that you posted it.

  • yetisdad
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    edited November 2016 #31

    TW,.. the point I was trying to illustrate that many dog owners think
    their
    dog is totally safe but most people ( owners and non owners) believe there is a limit to that trust.

    How many times have strange dogs have run up to myself/yourself etc and someone shouts from 50yds away 'Don't worry it won't bite!' IMO the general public should not be put in that situation.