CC membership and the forum
What proportion of people posting on this forum are fully paid up members of the Caravan Club.?
My opinion is that outsiders ( non members) should only have read-only access to this forum. Only paid up members of the CC should be able to post.
K 
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If only CC members were allowed to post on here, very biased and one sided discussions will take place!
Yes I am a member, and I think that the wide ranging views we see on here are good for the forum, and would be useful to the CC if they read the threads.
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K, I think the CC would be shortsighted if they stopped potential Members from posting on the Forum. The CC promote inclusivity, to then exclude potential Members strikes me as against that policy. I agree with PR1, it would be lacking unbiased input.
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I am not sure there is any evidence that non members are major contributors, in actual numbers anyway, to Club Together? Most, if not all, of the negative and anti Club posting actually comes from members!!! If you were to make it read only for non members you would exclude people like ValD who since the start of the forum has made a major contribution to the forum, especially in the Overseas Section. Ocassionally you get a 'non member' join to cause trouble but they are quickly spotted and removed by admin. I think the idea of it being an open forum was to encourage non members to join the Club which initially was quite successful but I have not seen any current statistics.
David
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With respect I have to disagree with R2b.-- In my opinion this forum is run by the CC on behalf of it's membership to further the help and assistance by CC members to other CC members and encourage the sharing of holiday and caravanning information common to CC members.
Non members and potential members I agree, should have read - only access and if after liking what they see, should put their hands in their pockets and become fully paid up members of CC Wherapon they would be granted posting rights.
There are loads of non- affilliated caravanning forums on the net for non-CC members to discuss caravanning.
K
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Would you want to prevent a non-member being able to post helpful advice to a member, K?
We have a few ex-members who post frequently and are far less contentious in their posts than many fully paid up members. CT would be a poorer place without the non-members.
I think there is a good case for placing non-members on pre-moderation for their first few posts but, other than that, let em post away.
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Further to my post above, IMO anybody who decides to leave the CC and no longer pays their subscription, they, being deemed a Non CC member should have their forum rights changed to read - only. Unless of course they rejoin.
There are many advantages to my proposals, an increase in subscription income being only one of many There would be absolutely no disadvantages to the CC. A definite Win Win for the Caravan Club
K
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not offering up any particular opinion, but for info....some other forums allow read only to anyone, and offer a number of posts for free prior to becoming a member.
that number could be far higher on CT than the 5 allowed on Motorhomefun, for example.
nothing wrong with trying before you buy.....
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Further to my post above, IMO anybody who decides to leave the CC and no longer pays their subscription, they, being deemed a Non CC member should have their forum rights changed to read - only. Unless of course they rejoin.
There are many advantages to my proposals, an increase in subscription income being only one of many There would be absolutely no disadvantages to the CC. A definite Win Win for the Caravan Club
K
As you said, K, it's only your opinion.
Can you seriously see someone who has left CC for whatever reason, or someone who doesn't want to be a member, forking out the membership fee just to use CT?
Good fun, eh?
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No worries K, neither of us are posting with insider knowledge, neither of us can speak on behalf of the CC. We both have an opinion only. I still believe the 'read only' option smacks of an exclusive club to members only, which to me harks back to the old
days, not something I would have thought is particularly positive nor attractive for forward thinking companys. I dare say all options are being considered as the CC move forward, going backwards I doubt is one of them
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I suspect there are a lot more ex members posting than the avatars would indicate, even past staff members are still showing as staff despite no longer working for CC!
I agree with TW, no one (at least with any common sense) is going to become a member just to access this forum, it only operates on a part time basis anyway!
None CC members contribute a great deal, give a sense of reality to touring "life beyond the Club", the issues, if any, don't lie with them, it lies with the way the forum is managed/administered.
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What would have prevented you joining Riba?
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If anybody doesn't want to be part of CC by rejecting being a member, Why then would they want to use the CC forum.?? ----- Seems a bit strange, when there are so many other caravanning forums out there. !!!!! That's my opinion, Others might want to explain that point. I certainly can't...
K
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That's an easy one K, choice. They choose to let their membership lapse but enjoy being part of the forum
. Similar to folk who contribute
to multiple forums not just the one they choose to be a paying member of, choice again. The upside for the CC is non members can easily
be banned for transgressions with no loss to the CC-win/win I think.0 -
What would have prevented you joining Riba?
The thought of ending up next to some opinionated, curtain twitching CT member
Don't get me wrong, I've met some lovely people on CC sites, I just don't think CT is a good representative of CC membership.
At least I hope it's not.
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What would have prevented you joining Riba?
The thought of ending up next to some opinionated, curtain twitching CT member
Don't get me wrong, I've met some lovely people on CC sites, I just don't think CT is a good representative of CC membership.
At least I hope it's not.
It certainly isn't, Riba. In fact it's a lousy shop window for CC.
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What would have prevented you joining Riba?
The thought of ending up next to some opinionated, curtain twitching CT member
Don't get me wrong, I've met some lovely people on CC sites, I just don't think CT is a good representative of CC membership.
At least I hope it's not.
Ribs, we've met quite a few other CT members now. And do you know what? In real life there's not been a single one of them who you could remotely describe as opinionated or a curtain twitcher. It's obviously the effect sitting at a keyboard have on a small
number. Even they'd be welcome to pitch up next to us on site though; it's amazing what effect being face to face has on folk!0 -
Many forums charge £10 or £12.50 a year to be full posting members.
It could be applied here and allow free access to CC members?
However I don't think the current system would be worth the £10...or the admin be capable of running such a system!
Shame really!!
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Imagine the calls for refunds!
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Over many years (since 1973) i have been motorhoming.Both with C.C/red Pennant membership and without.Now on my fourth vehicle
and a member again.In between times ,as cicumstanses dictated,i have been able to post quite helpfull threads to assist members and non-members alike.Therefore even non-members should feel welcome,with a view to aspirring to become part of the club should
they feel their contributions could be valid.They afterall,could be a welcome addition to the financial requirements of the future of the club.0 -
What would have prevented you joining Riba?
The thought of ending up next to some opinionated, curtain twitching CT member
Don't get me wrong, I've met some lovely people on CC sites, I just don't think CT is a good representative of CC membership.
At least I hope it's not.
Ribs, we've met quite a few other CT members now. And do you know what? In real life there's not been a single one of them who you could remotely describe as opinionated or a curtain twitcher. It's obviously the effect sitting at a keyboard have on a small
number. Even they'd be welcome to pitch up next to us on site though; it's amazing what effect being face to face has on folk!Well I'm exactly the same in real life as I am on the forum.......you'll be pleased to hear
Charming, reasonable, polite, sensible.......
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What would have prevented you joining Riba?
The thought of ending up next to some opinionated, curtain twitching CT member
Don't get me wrong, I've met some lovely people on CC sites, I just don't think CT is a good representative of CC membership.
At least I hope it's not.
Ribs, we've met quite a few other CT members now. And do you know what? In real life there's not been a single one of them who you could remotely describe as opinionated or a curtain twitcher. It's obviously the effect sitting at a keyboard have on a small
number. Even they'd be welcome to pitch up next to us on site though; it's amazing what effect being face to face has on folk!Well I'm exactly the same in real life as I am on the forum.......you'll be pleased to hear
Charming, reasonable, polite, sensible.......
But, of course, never thought otherwise, Ian!
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Many forums charge £10 or £12.50 a year to be full posting members.
It could be applied here and allow free access to CC members?
However I don't think the current system would be worth the £10...or the admin be capable of running such a system!
Shame really!!
Write your comments here...Good post Unfortunately I don't think the current software would be capable of detecting when someone left the CC. or did not join at all.
It does seem strange, that we as members of the CC are paying over £ 40.00 per annum for membership which includes the forum and it's administration. BUT there are outsiders who are not CC members able to get full use of the forum for "Free : Gratis and For Nought".
No doubt when the new forum software is commissioned, that abnomality will be addressed and outsiders who pay nothing will be given Read-only access to our forum.K
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I'm sure CC will be hanging on your every word, K, waiting to pick up your tips on how to improve CT and the Club.
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I expect they pay as mich attention to K as they would to anyone else.....pretty level playing field in that department
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You most likely are spot on Ian. BUT if those who enjoy being a CC customer do not suggest improvements, how are those in Grinstead Tower going to know what the ordinary caravanner requires.----- We are not a bit like the contestants on COTY
K
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If anybody doesn't want to be part of CC by rejecting being a member, Why then would they want to use the CC forum.?? ----- Seems a bit strange, when there are so many other caravanning forums out there. !!!!! That's my opinion, Others might want
to explain that point. I certainly can't...K
Well in my case it's the friendly banter and the entertainment factor from certain posters.
However if I'm not wanted I will move along............
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Well having been a CC member for 30yrs this year, we are actually having a hiatus at the moment through no fault of our own but health reasons factor prominently and we are finding it impossible to get out atm. We could very easily have let our subscription
lapse, indeed - if anything happened to my OH I would certainly become an ex-member and while I can see K being enthralled if I was barred from posting here - I think I would still have a valid contribution to make - should I wish to !Alison
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