Why blame the caravanner.
Too often when stuck in a slow moving convoy of vehicles do drivers blame the caravanner nearer the front of the convoy for the holdups.
In my experience, when those slow convoys occur it is not due to the caravanner but due to someone a few vehicles ahead of the outfit driving a car slowly watching the scenery.
Usually the driver of the slow car wears a flat cap and displays a CSMA sticker on their window.
Lets give credit to caravanners and realise that an outfit can only proceed at the pace of the vehicles in front..
K
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Biggest cause of queues I see now are cyclists, on a single road busses, lorries etc. have great difficulty passing.
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I think it wrong to sterotype drivers whatever they are driving. Some roads are just bad. A good (or should that be bad) example is the A39 from M5 to Minehead. Total lack of investment in our road infrastructure is more likely to be the cause?
David
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I think we all know that caravans are often wrongly blamed. You are preaching to the converted on here, K.
Please don't prejudge the cause of the hold up though as you are doing the same thing as those who automatically blame the caravanner.
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I try my best not to hold people up i try to drive at the speed limit for that particular road if possible.To be honest i,ve rarely had any problems with irate drivers but you always get th odd one that has to go faster than everyone else so i tend to leave a good gap between myself and the vehicle in front so the overtakers can get back in and get to their destination that 2 or 3 minutes earlier that seems so important to them.
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Some drivers will make responsible choices and others won't irrespective of what they are driving. Unfortuneately we are very good lawers for our own mistakes and very good judges of others mistakes. Perhaps we should look at things the other way around.
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I agree it is often slow dawdlers, tractors and HGV's that are the primary obstruction. But it is invariably the folk behind, not able or confident enough to overtake the slow vehicle safely, that don't accept the fact and drop back, to allow those able to make progress, to do so, safely, one vehicle at a time.
And I do see a lot of bl00dy-minded caravaners guilty of that.
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Caravanners are not quite off the hook on this one, I am referring to convoys of caravanners one behind the other leaving not enough space for faster vehicles to pass and move back in.
This is very noticable on the A9 between Perth and Thurso. And the A85/ A85/ A82 route between Stirling and Fort William.
Lets not give caravanners a bad name folks, leave a decent gap between yourself and the caravan in front.
K
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Too often when stuck in a slow moving convoy of vehicles do drivers blame the caravanner nearer the front of the convoy for the holdups.
In my experience, when those slow convoys occur it is not due to the caravanner but due to someone a few vehicles ahead of the outfit driving a car slowly watching the scenery.
Usually the driver of the slow car wears a flat cap and displays a CSMA sticker on their window.
Lets give credit to caravanners and realise that an outfit can only proceed at the pace of the vehicles in front..
K
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Caravanners are not quite off the hook on this one, I am referring to convoys of caravanners one behind the other leaving not enough space for faster vehicles to pass and move back in.
This is very noticable on the A9 between Perth and Thurso. And the A85/ A85/ A82 route between Stirling and Fort William.
Lets not give caravanners a bad name folks, leave a decent gap between yourself and the caravan in front.
K
Your second post is very different to your first, K. In the first you gave no indication you were referring to 'convoys' of caravans. If the point of your posts is that we should all drive giving consideration to other road users, then obviously we should
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Too often when stuck in a slow moving convoy of vehicles do drivers blame the caravanner nearer the front of the convoy for the holdups.
In my experience, when those slow convoys occur it is not due to the caravanner but due to someone a few vehicles ahead of the outfit driving a car slowly watching the scenery.
Usually the driver of the slow car wears a flat cap and displays a CSMA sticker on their window.
Lets give credit to caravanners and realise that an outfit can only proceed at the pace of the vehicles in front..
K
Write your comments here...
Caravanners are not quite off the hook on this one, I am referring to convoys of caravanners one behind the other leaving not enough space for faster vehicles to pass and move back in.
This is very noticable on the A9 between Perth and Thurso. And the A85/ A85/ A82 route between Stirling and Fort William.
Lets not give caravanners a bad name folks, leave a decent gap between yourself and the caravan in front.
K
Your second post is very different to your first, K. In the first you gave no indication you were referring to 'convoys' of caravans. If the point of your posts is that we should all drive giving consideration to other road users, then obviously we should and most of us do.
Write your comments here...Of course it is --- Threads develop as they progress and new ideas come to the fore.That's the beauty of discussions, one idea from one member can lead to another following it up.
K
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Too right, K.
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Caravanners are not quite off the hook on this one, I am referring to convoys of caravanners one behind the other leaving not enough space for faster vehicles to pass and move back in.
This is very noticable on the A9 between Perth and Thurso. And the A85/ A85/ A82 route between Stirling and Fort William.
Lets not give caravanners a bad name folks, leave a decent gap between yourself and the caravan in front.
K
No let's not.
Having spent years going up and down the A9 I don't ever recall "convoys" of caravans but I do recall the signs that request "slow moving vehicles" to pull over and allow others to pass. Sensible traffic advice I think?
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Caravanners are not quite off the hook on this one, I am referring to convoys of caravanners one behind the other leaving not enough space for faster vehicles to pass and move back in.
This is very noticable on the A9 between Perth and Thurso. And the A85/ A85/ A82 route between Stirling and Fort William.
Lets not give caravanners a bad name folks, leave a decent gap between yourself and the caravan in front.
K
..I thought it was All m/vans in those areas according to a post on another thread
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One problem is that I don't think many non-caravanners know that we are restricted by law to 10mph less than other traffic on roads that have a speed limit of 60 or 70mph. If we comply with the law we are bound to have traffic behind us who legally could
be driving faster. Perhaps we need to have stickers on the back of our caravans reminding following drivers of the law. They might then be a bit more tolerant. Oh look, a flying pig!!0 -
I take my flat cap off when towing a caravan!
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I try not to hold up traffic and usually the queue behind me is due to some slow moving lorry or whatever ahead. Given I cannot usually overtake I do leave enough room for cars to get passed. I know people blame caravans but in general you can see what is in front of them on bends.
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I try my best not to hold people up i try to drive at the speed limit for that particular road if possible.To be honest i,ve rarely had any problems with irate drivers but you always get th odd one that has to go faster than everyone else so i tend to leave
a good gap between myself and the vehicle in front so the overtakers can get back in and get to their destination that 2 or 3 minutes earlier that seems so important to them.v9
What has amused me a number of times on difficult twisty roads is when a driver spies an ovetaking opportunity and blasts past only to find that once in front he is driving no faster than I was.
Of course thereare also the idiots who drive faster than available stopping site distance as well
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