French City Pollution Sticker

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  • Tammygirl
    Tammygirl Club Member Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭
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    edited April 2017 #92

    Just done ours for the M/H and the Trike hopefully no problems and they will be through in time. Also done the Umweltplakette for Germany only the M/H needed one.

  • OmegaDave
    OmegaDave Forum Participant Posts: 23
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    edited April 2017 #93

    OK folks I must be thick.

    Do we only send page 2 of the V5?  I can get that to about 1Mb..

    What is BRAND?

    Is the Club going to provide members with some help / guidance - I booked through them after all!

     

  • OmegaDave
    OmegaDave Forum Participant Posts: 23
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    edited April 2017 #94

     Also What is TRADE NAME?

  • commeyras
    commeyras Club Member Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭
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    edited April 2017 #95

    You send page 2 of your V5 that is the one with all the vehicle details on.  If you scan it in black and white it will be within the size they want.  I just put 'Volkswagen' in one box and 'Tiguan' in the other any other info they can gleam from the V5.  Anyway, mine was accepted and I have my sticker.  It wasn't complex.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2017 #96

    Do you have the opportunity to use a save as function on your device. If its a PC/Laptop save as under a different name to the desktop and that will reduce the size of the photo, got mine down to about 200kb using that method.

    On your last point, where does the Club stop? Surely one purpose of this forum is to provide that sort of help?

    David

  • royandsharont
    royandsharont Forum Participant Posts: 735
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    edited April 2017 #97

    Just received a second email from them today, in French of course, but at least it was a quick reply. Whilst the reply was very brief and did not explain why my vehicle was classed as a disc 4 rather than a disc 3 they did say that given the information provided ( V5 & Cert of Conformity for my Euro 4 engine in a 2012 registered vehicle) I have the correct disc. A class 4 not the 3 I thought is was. I can only assume that in the absence of a class of vehicle for motorhomes it goes purely on weight and not engine emission's, which seems a little contrary to the purpose of this, and as we are over 3.5t (4.005t) we are classed along with everything else over that weight. So a 32t lorry is the same as mine with the same engine emission class.

    Still not convinced this is absolutely their intention but it appears this is the case. It would have been really nice for the reply to explain this, particularly as I asked, in French, to do this if my class was correct at a 4.

    Hope this will make it clear for others with a similar weight vehicle. I can fix it to my screen now.

    Regards, Roy

  • meecee
    meecee Forum Participant Posts: 304
    edited April 2017 #98

    OH had already scanned the V5 into his documents so I copied it to a word document, changed it to black/white and reduced it, I then saved it as PDF.  Alternative method, sounds fiddly but it worked.  Sent off today and have had email confirmation.

  • paulu38
    paulu38 Forum Participant Posts: 2
    edited April 2017 #99

    Have now submitted a request and received a confirmation in French. However the process was tortuous. Initial request to CC via chat confirmed that this is not a scam, and provided a link in the CC website, which I found unhelpful. BRAND is the marque of vehicle, mine is Fiat. I had to search the Fiat website to find which Euro emissions category my 2014 2.3 Diesel Ducato was, and concluded Euro 5 was the correct one. Regarding the registration document I had to adjust my scanner to 100 dpi to get the document under 400 Kb.

    i feel that the information on the CC could be greatly improved.

    A bientôt 

  • BigAonTour
    BigAonTour Forum Participant Posts: 14
    edited April 2017 #100

    Ordered my sticker last week and it arrived within 6 days. As we are doing a fair bit of wandering this year I figured 4.80 euros was better than 117 euro fine and my good lady has mentioned Versailles.

    Having ordered it I received a follow up email with a pdf of the order and copy of the sticker. Excellent service.

  • mike132
    mike132 Forum Participant Posts: 77
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    edited April 2017 #101

    Like BigA I ordered and received mine very promptly.  I don't tend to visit cities but looking at the list of towns considering the restriction and that the sticker lasts for the life of the vehicle then I thought it well worth it for the future.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2017 #102

    Mine came today, 10 days after ordering.Now duly stuck on the motorhome windscreen.

    David

     

     

  • Martatin
    Martatin Forum Participant Posts: 306
    edited April 2017 #103

    David which side do you stick the French and German stickers?

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited April 2017 #104

    Kerbside wink  

  • DavidKlyne
    DavidKlyne Club Member Posts: 13,863 ✭✭✭
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    edited April 2017 #105

    UK offside. I am not sure about the French sticker but for many years having had an Umwelt Plackette the instructions for that was on the German nearside so I decided to just put the French one above it.

    David

  • InaD
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    edited April 2017 #106

     Roy

    We applied for ours a couple of days ago.  Our MH is also >3.5t at 3.88t, 2016 model.  As you say, there is no provision on the application for a Motorhome so we entered ours as Light Commercial Vehicle >3.5t, attached V5C, but didn't attach the CoC.  Our Euro category is Euro 5, so we just entered that in the relevant box.

    Received an email just now with a yellow Class 2 sticker.

    I wonder whether, if you had gone for the Light Commercial vehicle rather than the Coach etc category, you would have got the Class 3 sticker you were expecting.  Only wondering, I have no idea of course.

    The whole thing is not quite 100% clear on the website (yet).

  • Justus2
    Justus2 Forum Participant Posts: 897
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    edited April 2017 #107

    We used to visit France fairly regularly some years ago. The last time we were in France was 3 years ago. I'm afraid this sticker scheme for us, just adds to the list of reasons of why not to bother anymore.

    We are, however, visiting the Irish Republic later this year and I was considering the Netherlands for 2018. Is anyone aware of any similar schemes in these two countries ? 

  • InaD
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    edited April 2017 #108

    Holland currently has only 2 cities which affect passenger cars, Utrecht and Rotterdam.  There are others but only for lorries.  Website link: https://www.milieuzones.nl/english

    From what I read it only affects diesel passenger cars registered before 1.1.2001 in these cities.

    But who knows what the situation will be in 2018 wink

  • Spamcan
    Spamcan Forum Participant Posts: 9
    edited April 2017 #109

     Has anyone successfully applied for the French emissions sticker if so, your advice please? First of all a PDF attachment of the Registration Certificate V5C is required in less than 400kb. The best I can do is a single page scan in black and white at 1413kb. The whole four pages in colour is 8000kb. Secondly when filling in the vehicle details (the first thing to do) I am  rejected because of incorrect information. Not sure what is required especially after copying from the V5.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2017 #110

    Personally had no issues at all either with scanning and resizing to meet the required size or completing the order page. Obviously I don't know what system you are using to scan and resize. Firstly you only need the main page of the V5 not the whole document. Most scanners offer the ability to change the resolution which will reduce the overall size on disk. If you are using a Windows system I would create your scan and then use the "save as" function to save it as a jpeg file, I usually do this to the desktop. In order to reduce the footprint size further you will need some photo editing software. Open the jpeg file and resize to 1000 pixel width and save. This should now be small enough to be under the 400kb required by the French website. 

    David

  • Spamcan
    Spamcan Forum Participant Posts: 9
    edited April 2017 #111

    David,

    Have taken your advice and managed to achieve 212kb and seem to have completed the request satisfactorily as they have taken my cash and acknowledged. Many thanks.

    Doug

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2017 #112

    Doug

    Well done. Keep a copy of the V5 just in case you want to go to Germany and want one of their stickers.

    David

  • ValDa
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    edited April 2017 #113

    More information here for all affected cities: Urban Access - though not easy to find exactly what is required and where because it seems a very complicated and slow process.

  • royandsharont
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    edited April 2017 #114

    Hi InaD, who knows? They didn't answer my question when I asked them to tell me why I was a class 4 if my thoughts about being a class 3 were incorrect. We are a Euro 4 engine so perhaps that would make the difference. It baffles me a little in that it is a pollution sticker so regardless of what type of vehicle you drive it should depend on what class of Euro engine you have, like the German one.

    I doubt it will ever affect us unless they start to include cities where the motorway goes through the centre and I doubt that would actually happen in France given all the diesel cars & HGV's there are on their roads.

    I was rather hoping the Club would make the enquiry on behalf of all their members and publish it here & in the magazine to cover all aspects of members variations but is seems my expectations were a little too high, or I've missed it somewhere.

    Re the position of the sticker, from their website, it says it needs to be positioned in the bottom right side of the screen, (offside for us)

    Regards, Roy

  • royandsharont
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    edited April 2017 #115

    Re above reply to InaD, I have looked at the official website again & am now pretty certain that if you are over 3.5t then you get the same class of sticker as all HGV/coaches dependant upon your emissions class e.g. euro 4, 5 etc. Hence InaD, who is a Euro 5 got a class 3 sticker and myself who is a Euro 4 got a class 4 sticker. The dates of registration on the website seem to make no difference. Had they taken InaD's self input vehicle type as light commercial over 3.5t then it puts him into the same category as I did when I chose coaches/trucks over 3.5t.

    I think I have it right.

    Regards, Roy

  • InaD
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    edited April 2017 #116

    Roy

    We got a Class 2 sticker, not a Class 3.  I suspect the difference is that we chose the Light Commercial Vehicle category rather than the HGV/Coach category.  I wonder how much checking, if any, they do, despite having to submit the V5C.

    We decided to get one, just in case we ever get diverted into a low emission area, which happened once when the Tour de France caused there to be a diversion in Rouen.  We were re-routed very close to the centre on that occasion.

  • derekdronfield
    derekdronfield Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited May 2017 #117

    I recently thought about driving through Lyon on the way to the south of France.  I usually drive the route through the tunnel in the centre of the town but realised I would need the vignette.I went onto the www.certificat-air.gouv.fr and found the page available in English which was straight forward but some useful tips:

    -you will need to have copied in your log book(document registration) but only page 2.  you will then need to resize using a photo app.  I found one online and if you reduce the width to 1000 then it is accepted by the website.  My son suggested just take a photo of the log book page then reduce this size(might work easier)

    -on the application when it asks for serial number it means VIN no

    -the Mark is the name of the car eg Ford

    -you can check your group no by phoning your car dealer or use the web page for this.  Mine was euro 5 for a 3 year old diesel car.

    once the payment is made you get confirming email of application, then when it is sent, then it arrived in the post.

    -this was all done in 4 days so if you are going soon do not be put off applying!

    Hope this helps!  soon it will be needed for all towns and this current one will be what is needed. 

  • eurortraveller
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    edited May 2017 #118

    A Club Official has already explained earlier in this thread that you don't need one of these permits to drive straight through Lyon on the autoroute  through the tunnel.

    I just wish the Club would put up a clear statement of the situation to save people hunting through this rambling thread of well over a hundred posts. Any chance of that? 

  • aysgarth1968
    aysgarth1968 Forum Participant Posts: 2
    edited May 2017 #119

    Have just applied for our French emissions sticker as we will be passing through Lyon later this summer.

    The first part of the application was easy but when I came to upload our scanned registration Document I had problems. I rang The Club but they weren't really able to help. Eventually found a tip on another website. I succeeded by copying in black and white (greyscale would have done) at 100 dpi. Hope this will be helpful to others who are struggling.

    Please also note that it says it can take up to 6 weeks for the sticker to come through!

    Jane

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited May 2017 #120

    Jane

    If you scan a document you can usually use the save as function and save as a jpeg. This will usually reduce of the size of the file to one that is acceptable for sending. I think my sticker came much quicker but I suppose we are entering into the peak season. Wouldn't be surprised if you get yours in less than a fortnight.

    David

  • caravanbmw
    caravanbmw Forum Participant Posts: 12
    edited May 2017 #121

    Hi I've just looked at the map of the area affected in Lyon and it seems that indigo Lyon site shouldn't need a sticker, anyone know if this is the case please.