Southport Site
We stopped at Southport site for the new year.The new refurbishments are a welcome addition to the site.
However in the new part of the site there was approx 20 plus pitches out of action because of flooding on the pitches. Some of the road around the pitches was also under water , it seems such shame to see this after the club has spent a lot of money on the
site.
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I don't know if anything could have been done to prevent it, well economically anyway, as we have never visited the site. However, we have experienced exceptional levels of rainfall with the wettest December ever. Perhaps in more average wet years the drainage
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As a retired highwat engineer who has also worked on cycle ways between rock cuttings with little drainage opportunity and little budget in those instances I put the problems down to poor engineering design. The problem could have been reduced by balancing
ponds and storage ditches and insuring that surplus water went where the effects were lessened. I was on site there from 13th December to the 28th0 -
I thought they had made some provision in the new area to absorb water but clearly there is a limitation depending on the amount and frequency of the rain? On the inside loop of the new site road you can't walk across the grass as its fenced off and I think this is the area which is meant to soak up excess water. The new section of the site is in a bit of a hollow so I expect that does not help?
David
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I wonder how some of the ex quarry sites have coped. Grin Low and Cherry Hinton spring to mind.
peedee
When we were in Cambridge a few weeks back, we stayed at the CCC site....newly refurbished roads and HS pitches, very open aspect, clean and bright.....
took a bike ride over to Cherry Hinton to see the CC site as part of a longer ride....dark, dank, shady, cold, grim, steep.....like (still) being in a quarry.....
guess which was the more expensive?....
We've stayed at the CC site there too, a few years ago, and thought the same. Never been to the C&CC site there, so will bear that in mind for any possible future visits. Thanks for the heads-up, BB.
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Another option is Highfield Farm Touring Park at Comberton over on the west side of Cambridge - family owned and run, personal service, very spacious and open, top quality, a short drive to a park and ride, but motor home owners would perhaps have to walk to a bus stop in Comberton village .
But the thread was about Southport. How did we get here?
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We stopped at Southport site for the new year.The new refurbishments are a welcome addition to the site.
However in the new part of the site there was approx 20 plus pitches out of action because of flooding on the pitches. Some of the road around the pitches was also under water , it seems such shame to see this after the club has spent a lot of money on the
site.Its not just the club site, and its not their fault. Lots of Southport was under water over the period. Just check out the local newspaper, Southport Visiter, for the photos
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But the thread was about Southport. How did we get here?
Well, it went from a comment about some of the Southport pitches being flooded, onto wondering how some of the quarry sites had fared in this long rainy period, Cherry hinton at Cambridge being one of those.
Keep up, ET
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I think to comment that a bit of 'flooding' on a site is a shame or is down to poor design is possibly getting ones priorities confused. What is a shame are the communities devastated by loss of bridges and peoples business's and livelihoods wiped out.
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Keep up, ET
I'm old. You young ladies are too quick for me......alas
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Hope it's all back to normal by the end of the month, I'm there for a week.
The site plan shows all the super pitches are fully booked but all other pitches are freely available. Are they full or just not in the booking system because of the flood
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Harry
There are only about 9/10 serviced pitches and they are right next door to the toilet block so its more than possible that they are always booked.
David
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I think to comment that a bit of 'flooding' on a site is a shame or is down to poor design is possibly getting ones priorities confused. What is a shame are the communities devastated by loss of bridges and peoples business's and livelihoods wiped out.
Write your comments here...My priorities are not confused I have lived in Tadcaster many years where the bridge collapsed and many friends and family including my mother who will be affected by many months to come. My observations were based on what I saw
at the site at the time of my visit and and is also a knock on from the severe weather.0 -
We stopped at Southport site for the new year.The new refurbishments are a welcome addition to the site.
However in the new part of the site there was approx 20 plus pitches out of action because of flooding on the pitches. Some of the road around the pitches was also under water , it seems such shame to see this after the club has spent a lot of money on the
site.Its not just the club site, and its not their fault. Lots of Southport was under water over the period. Just check out the local newspaper, Southport Visiter, for the photos
It is tptally bad engineering. We arrived 12th Dec. Pitches were flooded then,
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There are a few of the HS pitches at Rowan Park that are prone to being under a few inches of water in heavy rain. We weren't talking serious flood conditions in the region but if a site can't even cope with a bit of rain, it makes you wonder about the
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Harry
There are only about 9/10 serviced pitches and they are right next door to the toilet block so its more than
possible that they are always booked.David
Would that be because there are only 9/10 or because they are 'right next door to the toilet block'?
At this time of year I imagine a bit of both.
David
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If you are on a fully serviced pitch, why do you need a toilet block?
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Serviced pitches don't have showers and toilets.
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Serviced pitches don't have showers and toilets.
Not yet
CC are obviously lagging behind the foreigners!
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As a retired highwat engineer who has also worked on cycle ways between rock cuttings with little drainage opportunity and little budget in those instances I put the problems down to poor engineering design. The problem could have been reduced by balancing
ponds and storage ditches and insuring that surplus water went where the effects were lessened. I was on site there from 13th December to the 28thI live a few miles away from Southport (actually nearer Croston, so am familiar with the noise of Chinooks repairing flood defences). My housing estate has two balancing ponds, I believe in series. Neither has ever been full in the 15 years I've lived
here. Over the Christmas period, which the OP was referring to, those balancing ponds were about 10 feet below the level of the flood waters; they were achieving nothing as they were underwater.I passed the Southport site a couple of days after Boxing Day; the site did have flooded pitches but was in reasonable nick compared to most of the land around here.
Oh, and for those familiar with Southport - the tide was right in, sea lapping against the sea wall...can't remember last time I saw that.
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We stopped at Southport site for the new year.The new refurbishments are a welcome addition to the site.
However in the new part of the site there was approx 20 plus pitches out of action because of flooding on the pitches. Some of the road around the pitches was also under water , it seems such shame to see this after the club has spent a lot of money on the
site.Its not just the club site, and its not their fault. Lots of Southport was under water over the period. Just check out the local newspaper, Southport Visiter, for the photos
It is tptally bad engineering. We arrived 12th Dec. Pitches were flooded then,
12th December was at the time of the previous deluge here (not sure if Southport got it, but it's certainly downstream). That time it rained for 26 hours absolutely solid. Actually, my perception is it didn't actually rain as much on Boxing Day when the
big floods occurred, it's just that the rain came on absolutely saturated ground from earlier in the month.0 -
A high number of pitches were out when we arrived there on 13th December and it got progressively worse up to 26th. I know that there is a drainage problem on the site. The design of the site did not go anywhere near mittigating the problem by directing
the water to where it caused least problems including the use of balancing ponds etc. in my opinion.0 -
Hi, I am a Southport resident and checked out the site yesterday. It had stopped raining! The path from the site into Victoria Park requires big wellies
(about 6" deep) but the original site looks fine. The roadway into the site has some water but easily passible. The new part is closed. The tide had been in - for those who want to see the sea actually under the pier. All businesses in the area working as
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Thanks Eileen. Duly noted. I'm due there Sunday 17th but don't normally use the new part. I'll keep my eyes on the weather and flood reports.
Parts of Lancashire had heavy rain again yesterday and last night and there are local flood warnings in place again.
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