Should users be fined?

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  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited July 2016 #32

    Don't give up the day job Fysherman Wink

  • Fysherman
    Fysherman Forum Participant Posts: 1,570
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    edited July 2016 #33

    Too late, I already haveHappy

  • paul56
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    edited July 2016 #34

    Our 'breathable' groundsheet is a fairly loose weave and does let a lot of light/moisture through. We use it as it does help to keep the soil/grass/leaves out of the van and is pleasant to sit out on. Agree - the awning skirts are a problem.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited July 2016 #35

    Groundsheets are supposed to be lifted, ostensibly daily, although I must confess to doing mine on alternate days. Grass is always still green when I leave apart from the four pads of the steadies.

  • Freelander359
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    edited July 2016 #36

    We used our openweave rubbery type groundsheet last week. I checked the grass underneath daily and could see no problem. Under the caravan step the grass had actually grown through the holes to about 3". When we took the groundsheet up after a week there
    was no patch showing and absolutely no difference to the rest of the grass. Fact. And we prefer grass too.

  • Wildwood
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    edited July 2016 #37

    I am another who thinks all groundsheets should be banned on grass pitches. The ruloe on lifting them daily is simply unenforceable and the alternative would mean wardens had to check all awnings on grass pitches and tell those whose looked suspect nto remove
    them.

    If a pitch is damaged the wardens should know who was there and report back to the club. I doubt fines would be easy to enforce but a letter should be sent to the guilty parties with photos and making it clear this was unacceptable and if it happens again
    they will have action taken against them.

  • kaenergas
    kaenergas Forum Participant Posts: 171
    edited July 2016 #38

    So is it time for all pitches to be hardstandings, some with artificial grass so people can put ground sheets down?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2016 #39

    So is it time for all pitches to be hardstandings,  .....

    If you want a hardstanding there are plenty of sites that have tons of gravel for you park on ... or there's a the local Tesco/Asda
    Wink. I'll stick to grass when I can with my breathable ground sheet Cool

  • IanH
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    edited July 2016 #40

    Hi Corners, you are a teacher, how can grass make chlorophyll through a groundsheet?

    I am sure LR is not making it up but this is puzzling me.

    not sure I follow you, my post merely stated that there will be fewer grass pitches as time goes on so the issue of needing groundsheets will diminish, I was not following on from LR just making a point about the the OP question 

    Ok, never mind. I just thought you might have been able to help answer something.

    Happy

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2016 #43

    With any sort of covering grass will suffer to a greater or lesser degree. Totally covered(tarp/plastic sheet) will be a greater degree, breathable cover(holes/spaces in the cover) lesser degree. The grass is being stopped from photosynthesising, even by
    using a breathable G/sheet it is causing damage. However for a few weeks covering of the grass it will recuperate happily. Cover it for months & the grass will die. With a breathable G/sheet it will be less dramatic & problematic. The fact the G/sheet is within
    an awning is also stressing the grass due to the sunlight being weakened in its life giving properties. 

  • Wildwood
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    edited July 2016 #44

    Every time this  comes up someone  will liken hard standings  to Tesco carparks, there is no reason  why getting away from grass with all the asociated problems should lead to a "car park" environment if properly designed ,Commons  Wood is a good example.
    We spend much time in hotter  places where grass wouldnt grow anyway and dont miss mud, insects or boggy ground. A site with hard standings pitches hedged with flowering shrubs beats rows of vans in a field every time  IMHO

    if that went ahead the club would not see us again. We like hard standings but with grass around them. Hard standings without grass is too hard in appearence for us.

     

  • Fisherman
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    edited July 2016 #45

    I pitty anyone going to St Davids -after the summer hols.Its a grass only site and will be a quagmire of mud with the wardens buisily reeseeding the  awning sites.Definately a price should be paid for awnngs if only to recover the extra maintenance costs.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited July 2016 #46

    Malcolm what do you use in your massive awning? I know you're on grass for 3 weeks at a time. Maybe you could enlighten us as to how you manage not to kill the grass, either from the ground sheet or from the skirts around the awning.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2016 #47

    I pitty anyone going to St Davids -after the summer hols.Its a grass only site and will be a quagmire of mud with the wardens buisily reeseeding the  awning sites.Definately a price should be paid for awnngs if only to recover the extra maintenance costs.

    We spent a fortnight at St Davids last year. No signs of any quagmires anywhere. The other option is to sideways shift all the pitches over a bit

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2016 #49

    If this were the model for club sites there would be no problem with grass.

    well it is on most sites, I can't think of a club site that has HS that doesn't have a grass strip between pitches, remember all the threads on people walking/sitting/drying clothes... on the strips?

  • nicko
    nicko Forum Participant Posts: 101
    edited July 2016 #50

    with all this about fines for grass, charging extra for arrivals before 12 penalties for speeding,why not bring back the guillotine!! joking of course !!! surely rotation of grass pitch allocation should resolve the problem ie left side of hook up one week
    right side next (allowing for length of booking)

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  • nicko
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    edited July 2016 #52

    Madam guillotine is a bit tame nicko; can you not suggest anything more, err, appropriate? Laughing

    Write your comments here...well we could all" club them together"Yell geddddit!!!!!

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  • nicko
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    edited July 2016 #54

    How about a compulsory meeting with the Chairman :Eeek:.

    ooh you are awful Laughing

  • cyberyacht
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    edited July 2016 #55

    ... surely rotation of grass pitch allocation should resolve the problem ie left side of hook up one week right side next (allowing for length of booking)

    Imagine the confusion. Alternating nose-in/nose-out would help the grass but what of the poor chap without a mover.