Kia Sportage and Lane Keeping Assist

Egg9
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edited October 17 in Towcars & Towing #1

The Sportage Owners Manual states (Chapter 7 Page 32) 'When you are towing a trailer or another vehicle turn off Lane Keeping Assist for safety reasons.'

Have any members experienced caravan stability issues towing with Lane Keeping (or Lane Following) Assist on?

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  • TimboC
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    edited October 17 #2

    I can't speak for the Sportage, but on the Ford Kuga lane assist shows itself by vibrating the steering wheel if you veer out of lane.

    If the Sportage does the same, perhaps Kia consider this to a danger when towing?

  • Oscarmax
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    edited October 17 #3

    We have lane assist on our Suzuki Across regardless we always switch it off

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited October 17 #4

    I have a Kia Niro HEV although I don't tow with it. The lane assist does seem to have the habit jolting the steering wheel when it feels you are too near the centre line. Given that cars movements can be multiplied whist towing I can see why they say turn it off. I am not sure I see the sense of lane assist?

    David

  • Simon100
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    edited October 17 #5

    I have a Hyundai Santa Fe with Lane Keep Assist.

    When I purchased the car and on my first outing, I discovered that it was not as stable as my Sorento when towing the same caravan, a twin axle.

    The car's steering 'twitched' all the time, something that it never did when solo.

    I resolved this by turning the LKA off, and now do so whenever I tow. 

    I keep the LKA on when driving solo.

     

  • Whittakerr
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    edited October 18 #6

    the lane keeping assist on my bmw x5 is automatically disabled  when a trailer is plugged into the 13 pin socket. 

  • Martia
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    edited October 19 #7

    Hi, I was towing with a Kia Sorrento, tried with lane keep on and found it was a bit too sharp on the steering adjustments, i learned there were options to warn only via vibration and audio which i found much better when towing. I now have a Range rover sport and the same applies here, I just turn it off.

    I also keep (active) cruise control off, because of sudden braking when someone cuts in the lane too early which causes harsh braking. hope this helps.

    Regs: Andy

  • Wildwood
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    edited October 19 #8

    We have lane assist on or car. Frankly I do not want the car affecting my steering when driving, so I have it off. My feeling is it could be more dangerous on than off. 

  • LLM
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    edited October 19 #9

    Lane assist is great when used driving on decent roads.  Unfortunately I don't think any exist is the UK😁.  

  • wh1nbrew
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    edited October 19 #10

    We only have lane annoyance on the Tcross, which is not used for towing.  Fortunately the Karoq, for towing doesn't have it.

     

    But what intrigues me is what happens when you go abroad with lane assist enabled.  Does the direction it tries to pull you differ if driving on the right compared to driving on the left?  If so, how does it know which way to pull?

  • Simon100
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    edited October 19 #11

    My understanding is that it works by monitoring the white lines and the surrounding traffic in conjuncton with the blind spot monitoring system. Therefore it should make no difference which side of the road you are driving on. 

    If you try to cross the centre line, wihout signalling, my system will alert me and try to steer me back into the lane.

    It will also 'steer' my car around corners if it thinks that I am not taking the correct direction. Right or left corners are all the same to it.

    I have not driven in Europe but can't see why this system would not do the same by sensing that a white line has been crossed and 'tugging' the steering in the appropriate direction. 

    I stand to be corrected of course!

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 19 #12

    It's been a legal requirement for all new cars since July 2022.

    The first time it activated on my daughter's car she found it quite alarming (she had to change lanes due to roadworks) as it was quite strong, but now's she's used it and easily steers back the way she wants.

  • LLM
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    edited October 20 #13

    I have driven many 000's of miles abroad.  On their mostly decent roads I do activate lane assist and make a lots of use of adaptive cruise control both systems work perfectly well driving on the "other" side.  

  • LLM
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    edited October 20 #15

    That seems to apply to the EU but as far as I'm aware the UK left the EU 23:00 GMT on 31 January 2020.  Is there a UK regulation?

  • TimboC
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    edited October 20 #16

     

    Line after the highlighted text;

     

    The UK remains aligned with the EU on new vehicle standards despite Brexit, so the new regulations apply here as well.

  • Arch
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    edited October 20 #17

    Can you explain any situation when lane assist would be great other than for a learner driver I fail to see any other reason.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 20 #18

    I had issues with the lane keeping, too. While indicating to change lanes, the car had different ideas and I ended up going straight on instead of changing lanes. After that, the disable button was used on a daily basis.

    It's near impossible to use such functions on narrow roads where only one lane exists and pulling almost into the hedge is a regular occurrence to pass oncoming traffic.

    I understand completely the situation your daughter was in, Corners. Sometimes these functions aren’t as clever as people think they are 🙁

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 20 #19

    I’ve no doubt it’s a huge benefit to those wanting to use their phones while driving, Arch. Not that I’m suggesting anyone here does that, of course.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 20 #20

    According to some simple searching many/some accidents, including those with drivers of many year's driving experiences, are caused by driver fatigue or drowsiness and stray off the road, and/or not paying attention enough to the road, looking elsewhere or perhaps into the car at something... 

    Yes of course one should always give 100% attention but accidents have happened due to the above, some sadly with tragic results.

    Depending on which study you read up on it's reducing accidents by 11% to 21% and tens of thousands of lives every year.   

    Whatever the number if it saves just one, isn't that enough?

  • LLM
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    edited October 20 #21

    I find it helpful when travelling for many hours and miles, or should I say kilometers, on M-Ways abroad.  Just engage adaptive cruise, lane keeping and any other available driver assistance and relax but keep vigilant.  Not for everyone I'm sure, but I like it 😉.  Roll on the day when we have full auto-pilot.  

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 20 #22

    +1

    As said there were cones taking all her lane into the next one, also happened when there was a traffic light controlled roadwork talking the flow into the opposite side which was on green so the few cars in front started to move and she followed and it acted once again when she started to cross the lines  but this time she was expecting it. 

    Without being ageist I've noticed a lot my children's friends and other young drivers wouldn't dream of switching it off or I don't see them doing it so perhaps it's a age, or rather number of years driving, thing to do so? 

  • SteveL
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    edited October 20 #23

    Perhaps makes folk use there indicators a bit more on motorways, rather than just manoeuvring  without signalling.

    We have only had a car with it for 7 months (Toyota) and so far have left it on. The beeping can occasionally be a bit annoying if driving close to the centre line due to potholes at the side. However, on our vehicle it just makes the steering heavy and more difficult to turn in that direction, it doesn’t throw you back.

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 20 #24

    It’s also really not suited to some roads whereas the type of journeys DD describes lend themselves to doing things the easy way. 

  • LLM
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    edited October 20 #25

    In the UK a pothole avoidance system would be useful 🤔.

  • SteveL
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    edited October 20 #26

    It does beep if they’ve painted a white line round them prior to filling😂

  • Wildwood
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    edited October 22 #27

    The car still beeps even with the system turned off. It is annoying when you are waiting to pull as a car passes as it still beeps as the car passes, presumably it wakes you up if you are drifting off to sleep though.

  • LLM
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    edited October 22 #28

    Cars and systems vary.  On ours when lane assist is off it does nothing, no steering input or sounds.  Off is off!  Another system "Driver Alert" monitors, would you believe driver alertness 😀.  If it consider I'm losing concentration it sounds an alarm, wobbles the steering and puts a suggestion on the dash that's it time to take a break.