Lickpenny Caravan Park in Derbyshire

RowenaBCAMC
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edited August 22 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

We are delighted to announce the purchase of Lickpenny Caravan Park in Derbyshire!


Enjoy spacious pitches surrounded by mature trees and rhododendrons, with 16-amp electric hook-ups and fully serviced options. Located above Tansley village, it offers easy access to Matlock and Bakewell. 


The campsite, which will be called Lickpenny Matlock Club Campsite, features modern amenities, including heated shower blocks, a play area, and a woodland walk for dogs. Explore local gems like Chatsworth House, Matlock Bath, and Peak Rail. 


To find out more about the Club’s latest addition to the campsite network, visit our news article

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 22 #2

    Great news and in a good area, I assume that when booking opens from next week it will be the club T&Cs that apply and not the present ones?

  • MikeyA
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    edited August 22 #3

    One thing I'm sure of Corners is that the current simple price band of two prices - Off Peak and Peak will be immediately abandoned.

    On reflection, it is not quite as simple as I thought , Bank holidays are £4 per night extra. High season is also 22nd March - 7th November!!!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 22 #4

    …..along with the bank holiday supplements. 👏🏻

  • MikeyA
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    edited August 22 #5

    Yes I've just seen that as well.

    I presume the limit on dogs will disappear laughing

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 22 #6

    Of course but then again like all club sites one is not forced to use them and I think there's a lot more to be gained in T&C. I'll assume that the following will all go too.

    The minimum number of nights - 3 or 4 depending on dates, the non refundable/non transferable deposits of £30 or £50, no money back if you leave early no matter what, and the following, some of which I find puzzling:

    maximum number of occupants must be declared at time of booking, no additional occupants can be added after the initial booking process.

    Bank holiday booking cancellations made on day of arrival will be chargeable in full.

    Only one motor vehicle allowed at any time on the pitch.

    No day visitors

    I think removing those is a good thing, don't you?

    I suppose the following might or might not be depending on your views?

    Please do not use any electrical appliances in awnings, this includes heaters and televisions.

    Dogs welcome on short leads at all times, max 2 dogs per pitch.

    Strictly no transit vans or equivalent commercial vehicles will be allowed on to the park.

  • RowenaBCAMC
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    edited August 22 #7

    Hi Cornersteady,

    New bookings will be under the Club's terms and conditions:


    - £5 refundable deposit - up to 21 days before your arrival
    - FREE amendments / cancellations - up to 21 days before your arrival
    - Switch Club campsites without loss of deposit - anytime before arrival date
    - Non-member bookings will attract a non-member supplement of £15

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited August 22 #8

    Motorhome owners will love this one. A mere hour and ten minutes walk (down going, uphill back) to Matlock. There’s a bus every couple of hours though. 🤭

  • peedee
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    edited August 22 #9

    That must have cost a bob or two and dented the cash reserves some. It was one of the C&CC's listed sites.

    peedee

  • peedee
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    edited August 22 #10

    A good area yes, but the Club already has two sites there, Carsington and The Firs, neither looks busy in September. Perhaps they are planning dropping one if leased?

    peedee

  • Wherenext
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    edited August 22 #11

    Lovely area if slightly out of "Peak" Peak District and site seems fine but I do wonder if this has been bought due to the uncertainty of the site at Chatsworth. In addition it is in close proximity to several other club sites.

    There will now be 4 sites in close proximity, Chatsworth, Poolsbrook, Carsington and The Firs. Spoilt for choice or ...?

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited August 22 #12

    Do I sense some tongue in cheek there TDAwink The buses, seemingly three services, are about a half a mile walk from the site. If they install a few Pods that could be an ideal location for us. 

    Is it slightly worrying that this site is fairly close to Chatsworth where there have been more that  a few rumours about it continuing as a Club site as the lease is up for renewal next year or the year after? I know the Club have said they are in negotiations about an extension of the lease.

    David

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited August 22 #13

    Just an observation on its location for MH owners who like to leave their outfit on site once pitched up DK. I know a lot do. I hadn’t realised that the bus stop was a half mile away to be honest. Lovely area, we know it well, but would suggest a bit of research before staying. Matlock is a gridlock for cars, but quite nice when you get parked up, as is Matlock Bath. There’s lots to do nearby. Better with a caravan and car would be my observation. 

    If I was a betting person, I’d go for The Firs closing, and the lease on Chatsworth subject to whatever plans the Estate might have up their sleeves. That would be a huge loss for the Club, as it’s been popular for decades. 

  • SteveL
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    edited August 22 #14

    Indeed, wouldn’t interest us as we prefer to leave the MH on site. No footpaths from site and although there is an infrequent bus service to Matlock, it’s half a mile along Lickpenny Lane and there is no pavement. Even when we had a caravan we probably wouldn’t have bothered, as we liked sites with some safe walking without having to use the car.

  • peedee
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    edited August 22 #15

    +1

    I would prefer Carsington at least you can go fishing there.

    peedee

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 22 #16

    On their prices below deluxe pitches, ie SPs, there is something called Custom Homes. That may sounds as a cabin or pod?

  • Simon100
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    edited August 22 #17

    Lickpenny also have a lot of seasonal pitches in a seperate section. I wonder what the caravan club are going to do with them?

    Having arranged to go there in September, I am not impressed that the club won't guarantee to honour the pitch that I have booked. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 22 #18

    But they’ll do their best to honour it.

  • Simon100
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    edited August 22 #19

    Rowena. 

    Thanks for letting us know about Lickpenny.

    As someone who has booked a specific pitch for September 2024, I am disappointed that the club is not prepared to guarantee specific pitch bookings, made prior to the club taking over.

    I realise that it is not club policy to usually allow members to book pitches. However there are instances, such as need to be close to the amenities, or length of van on certain sites or other specific reasons that clearly override this policy on a regular basis.

    I think that in this instance the club should honour specific pitch bookings as a good will gesture and an indication that people, like me, had entered into a contractual agreement with the previous owners.

    I look forward to reading your response.

  • Simon100
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    edited August 22 #20

    Trying your best to honour the pitch booking is not the same as guaranteeing it.

    As stated in my previous post, the club reserves pitches for a number of reasons, I am only asking that this poilcy is extended to pitches booked at Lickpenny.

    There can't be many and it will only be an issue for a few months.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 22 #21

    Out of interest, did the previous owners absolutely guarantee you’d get the pitch of your choice come hell or high water or was there a disclaimer along the lines of "although we will do our best to give you the pitch of your choice, there may be circumstances beyond our control when we cannot"?

    I can’t think of instances where CAMC reserves pitches on other sites unless it’s for extra large units or for less able users which isn’t quite the same thing. It’ll be interesting to see what happens in due course.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited August 22 #22

    Deleted by me.

  • Hja
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    edited August 23 #23

    And with no footpath can’t use mobility scooter.

  • mickysf
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    edited August 23 #24

    I understand the need to ‘save’ pitches for the disabled but as I understand it the club managers will only cone off from pitches closest to the facilities close to the day of arrival, you can’t necessarily choose a specific pitch. To be fair Tinny those ‘reserved’ pitches you describe are a bit of a misnomer, they are ‘allocated’ by staff, not members, according to the size of our unit, in doing this it removes the arriving member’s ability to choose from all that is available. Also, when the Club bought Cayton they inherited forward bookings for that first season and judging from past threads on this site purchase, it was managed until the diaries and forward bookings were cleared. It will take time but I’m sure normal operations will ensue.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 23 #25

    I agree, Micky. That’s why I was attempting to make the point to Simon that those special pitch ‘reservations’ aren’t the same thing as booking a specific pitch.

    I expect, like Cayton, the reserved pitches will work out as booked under the previous ownership.

  • mickysf
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    edited August 23 #26

    Yes, Cayton was a very different site under the previous owners, specific pitches were booked, if you were lucky, a year or more in advance and with it came that week minimum stay stipulation. That booking system is a very different beast to what we know at C&MC. Lots of private sites along the Lincolnshire and Yorkshire Coastline operate like this and cater for those year on year returning customers on their annual holiday. I’d bet it’s challenging to work through one set of previously held T&Cs to another regime, don’t know if Lickpenny has seasonals but if so that will generate some challenges for the incoming site managers I’m sure.

  • Simon100
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    edited August 23 #27

    Tinwheeler, in answer to your question.

    I have a clear, written, understanding with the, now prevous owners of Lickpenny, that I have booked a specific pitch, as discussed when making the booking. My 'reservation/booking' is for a specific numbered serviced pitch.

    This was confirmed in an email which contained no caveats. As far as I am concerned this constitutes a contract.

    So far this year I have booked specific pitches at a numbr of sites, sometimes at extra cost, and not had an issue at any of them.

    mickysf. Lickpenny does have seasonal pitches, which as you say, will generate challenges for the club.

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 23 #28

    It surprises me there was no caveat, Simon. Suppose, for instance, the hook up bollard failed then you’d surely have a different pitch in such circumstances. It’s my guess that CAMC are covering themselves for just such an occurrence.

    Do let us know how you get on.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited August 24 #29

    Perhaps the Club will run a shuttle bus from this new site into town as the owners of Polmanter site in Cornwall do. Perhaps laughing

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited August 24 #30

    I think when the Club buy a former commercial sites they tend allow for a year switchover to the Club's way of doing things. As for seasonal pitches no doubt the Club will review the need for them. They usually work on the basis that if a site can support a decent occupancy they don't have such pitches so I wouldn't be surprised if in time they disappear. Club seasonal pitches are usually only on sites with low touring occupancy rates. I imagine that if the Club have invested in this new site they did so on the basis of it being a touring site?

    David

  • Simon100
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    edited August 24 #31

    Tinwheeler.

    I accept that there might be circumstances that makes a pitch unavailable. That is unavoidable.

    However, my reading of the clubs comment is that the aim to honour bookings is not to do with pitch problems, but someone else using the pitch before I get there. I might be wrong.

    Having said that, without a response from Rowena there can be no clarification.