Campsites closing at the end of the 2024 season

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  • poggy
    poggy Forum Participant Posts: 13
    edited July 21 #152

    Used some of the sites that are closing and they are nice. As said before don't use them and they will close. We're all up in arms about the local high street closing and big out of town retail outlets opening, Amazon on the wonderful interweb just a click away. Shops underused so not  making money, we are all guilty of sleepwalking into having big impersonal experiences. I personally love no facility sites but also use the bigger ones. I could leave but there are plenty of nice sites left. Sadly the club is a business and whilst I may not like or approve of "their" decisions I don't think I could do better. 

  • ScreenName5D6FEFEC9C
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    edited July 21 #153

    Sad to see that Dockray Meadows will be be closing, we use it on a regular basis to visit family in the area. a beautifully peaceful site. not everyone wants candyfloss,amusments and playgrounds.membership should be just that, funds used for the pleasure of all members. I’m sure that it will at least break even, it is always well looked after and patronised from what we’ve seen. worth a visit just to listen to the resident owls.we hope and look forward to it being taken on by new management, shame on the CAMC.

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 21 #154

    Micro managed sites, some hate them, some tolerate them, some absolutely love them. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 21 #155

    Interestingly, someone is indeed having a go at keeping an ex non facility site open and running………Marazion, down in West Penwith. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 21 #156

    Yes and still using CAMC’s photos on their website 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • GEandGJE
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    edited July 21 #157

    So right Micky, the decision that the club shouldn't look at an Aire type produce hasn't been made by the Club but by a collective consensus made on CT.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 21 #158

    I’m not aware of any decision being made, only an expression of opinions 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • peedee
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    edited July 21 #159

     At one time they did say they would introduce a trial in respose to a questIon raised at the AGM but what that even composed of was never revealed and I think nothing happened at all.

    peedee

  • K Brown
    K Brown Forum Participant Posts: 33
    edited July 21 #160

    Even if the club looked at an Aire type product, whatever that may be, the fact remains that the more remote, non facility sites, are overall losing money. 

    The club have never come out and said this, but it seems to be the case that each site must pay its own way. 

    The non facility remote sites, loved and used by a number of people previously (me included), are a less attractive option now.

    Who is going to work at Nunnykirk (and the other “at risk” sites?

    Perhaps the answer for those members who want a basic site, the answer may be a CL of which there are a number in Northumberland.

    I’m sorry if this seems negative to some, but the world moves on, most people want more facilities closer to hand.

  • mickysf
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    edited July 21 #161

    I agree with much of this, it was there prior to Covid, but Covid I’m sure has compounded the issue. The rise of the Yuppiedom, those me, me, me attitudes really accelerated these standpoints. However it was there even prior to this but they who exhibited such views were fewer in number. As you say there are enough of us supportive types today to make a possible difference, given the chance. Interestingly most, but not all, of this persuasion now tend to be in the younger generations. As to too much centralisation the opposite has been argued with too many site specific rules ( different arrival times, different pitching requirements etc.) showing a lack of continuity and commonalty. It seems that no one can win!

  • Formentor
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    edited July 22 #162

    Nunnykirk has 43 seasonal pitches this year all of which are taken and the club want to close the site at the end of September 2024. Why haven’t the club consulted the seasonal pitch holders with a view to increasing the cost to say £1500 for 2025 season…..I’m sure the majority if not all, would be happy to pay this if it resulted in the site staying open. The club have not actively marketed Nunnykirk in my opinion and this probably applies to the other sites which are also closing. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 22 #163

    Why not put your suggestion to CAMC?

  • Formentor
    Formentor Forum Participant Posts: 3
    edited July 22 #164

    Will do when Nick Lomas and co respond to my email…..they have a 20 working day response timescale!! I won’t be waiting though .

  • GEandGJE
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    edited July 22 #165

    Correct TW, the club has not made any decisions on an Aire type product.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 22 #166

    Exactly, no one has 👍🏻

  • mickysf
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    edited July 22 #167

    And I for one don’t expect any to do so!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 22 #168

    + 1

  • handyandy
    handyandy Forum Participant Posts: 2
    edited July 23 #169

    Instead of closing these no facilities sites they should be using them to combat the current cost of living. If they offered them at £20 per night for pitch, electric and all occupants they would soon fill up and along with the seasonals return to profit. They used to do something similar a while ago. I think the current management of the club would struggle to run a bath. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 23 #170

    So you think a £1.60 reduction from the current peak price for a couple (it already has EHU) would do would do it at Nunnykirk and fill up the pitches? 

  • handyandy
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    edited July 23 #172

    Well call it kids go free if you prefer. It’s younger families that are feeling the pinch and need to be encouraged as the future of the club. Add three kids and the saving is over £100 on a two week holiday. If you compare that to a site with facilities it is a greater saving.  Couples can go off peak if they want to save. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 23 #173

    But….families with children generally don’t use non-facility sites which is why we were able to enjoy their quietness at peak times. 

    However, aren’t there already offers and free stays for children? It’s not something I’m up to date with.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 23 #174

    Why stop at three kids for two weeks, why not four for three? But an extra child is £2.20 per night and the club will have analysed the data and seen how many childrens go to these sites. I would suspect it's not many.

    Nunnykirk is all grass, great when it's dry and the sun's out - done it with three young children and got the t-shirt. Also done it when it's been raining (a lot for a few days) and the site got muddy, then while on site it's not and you can have the t-shirt back.

    Also, again personally speaking, a non facility site with (three) children is just a non starter. Yes one can use the shower in the outfit but with five people to use it the aquaroll will probably run out then the hot water will too unless a lot of planning is done. And of course toilets, again not a big problem but they will need emptying - a lot and usually when it's raining!

    Sadly these type of sites are not paying their way.

  • LLM
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    edited July 23 #175

    Under 5’s FREE, Dogs FREE, Hot showers FREE, Electric hook-up FREE, WiFi FREE, Awnings FREE.  What a load of buncombe.  It’s all priced into the charge.  Any member who thinks they are getting a special deal is kidding themselves. 

    Those who don’t want or use any of those things are subsidising others just as much as the other sites may be required to subsidise the non-fac sites if they were to keep them open for the self sufficient.  

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 23 #176

    I assume that, as you’re not a member, you probably prefer to go to commercial sites where they often charge for each of those items. It can add up to a fair bit more with that type of menu pricing.

    Personally, I was always happy to help out others by subsidising things, such as play areas, of which I had no need 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 23 #177

    You're making it sound as if people has being forced against their will to use club sites and being taken advantage of in some way?

    I think most, if not all, members realise what all that 'free' stuff means and none of them will be kidding themselves at all. But of course as you will know using mostly non club sites, these things are often charged for in addition to the pitch price and can mount up, of course not to mention the club's T&C which I think are the best in the market 

    I've posted recently of non club site where dogs are £3 per night per dog. And there was one CL were showers were charged for.

  • MikeyA
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    edited July 23 #178

    I've posted recently of non club site where dogs are £3 per night per dog.

    Sounds like a lovely quiet site! laughing

  • Formentor
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    edited July 23 #179

    I have now put this suggestion to the club and await their reply!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 23 #180

    Do let us know the outcome 👍🏻

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 23 #181

    Well perhaps you don't think £3 is enough for your pet if you had one Burt, but others might of theirs?

    If I had one and I wanted to be in a particular location then £3 wouldn't really put me off.