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Possible Belvoir Castle Site

Hope this link works. Article about the CAMC setting up a new site in Lincs, near to Belvoir Castle, which is in Leicestershire. The site is very close to the Grantham Canal.

I haven't looked up what has gone to SKDC planning dept yet.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 28 #2

    It has to be good news. 👍🏻

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 28 #3

    Interesting🙂 We know the area well, use a lovely CL not far away. It is indeed right next to the Grantham Canal, which is great for walking and cycling, and perhaps a mile further on to Belvior Castle itself. Not far from A1 either, so well connected, and some nice places to visit not far away. 

  • Freddy55
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    edited February 28 #4

    Once permission is granted, how long do these things usually take?

  • mickysf
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    edited February 29 #5

    Is this the proposed, adjacent to the Mucky Duck Pub?

  • mickysf
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    edited February 29 #6

    Sorry, Dirty Duck.that should be!

    https://www.thedirtyduckpub.co.uk/

  • peedee
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    edited February 29 #7

    I have a vague recollection of staying at the Dirty Duck some years ago to attend a wedding at Belvoir Castle. Nice area. Planning application can be found >here<

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 29 #8

    Looks like it Micky. If I recall correctly, pub had a camp site in grounds already, I recall cycling past it. That does look quite a big site that’s proposed, must be looking at purchasing adjacent field. Belvior is further along entrance road, then turn right in Woolsthorpe, and up the hill. I think Belvior Castle runs it’s own campsite, possibly to compliment all events that go off there. Have to say, it’s a cracking location for Club, lots to do and see.

  • Hja
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    edited February 29 #9

    Personally I don’t think it is a good location. Like too many sites it is in the back of beyond. No public transport. I also believe it will spoil a pleasant quiet area, but no doubt the pub and the Duke of Rutland, who owns Belvoir, will be delighted. Can’t see it would be able to be ready for at least five years,  by which time the world will be a different place.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 29 #10

    We could debate all day really, as so many of us tour in different ways, but as someone who loves rural locations, has an outfit that we don’t need to leave on site, happy to walk and cycle, love all the history, and nature sites around, have been to events at Belvior, and actually live not that far away, it’s a good addition for us. Rather here than closer to Grantham, which hasn’t been on our list of places to visit whenever we have been in area. It has to be a very nice, very interesting city location to get us to leave our outfit on site, say York or Bristol. Ferry Meadows is down the A1 for those keener on being closer to buses, etc….

    Huge car parks that take MHs at Belvior, Belton House, Burghley House, Easton Walled Gardens, so it’s a good location, even with a big MH.

  • peedee
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    edited March 30 #11

    Looks like planning permission is running into some opposition.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-68682152

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 30 #12

    Rather perverse that the guy mentioned in the BBC article, John Buxton, seems to be in the business of selling motorhomes! Never heard of his website before but here is a link   One would have thought he would have had a greater understanding of how Club sites operate and the volumes of traffic generated, over a period of a week would be quite small even with a site of that size. OK more traffic at weekends but hardly on the scale of the M1?

    David

  • Hja
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    edited March 30 #13

    There is a huge amount of opposition. The site would be open all year. The surrounding roads are very narrow with scarcely room for two cars to pass. The numbers on the site would be more than in the village. The club did itself no favours at a recent public meeting where, as I understand, they seemed to think it fine for traffic to use the verges for vehicles passing each other, could not explain their figures as to input into the local community and admitted to not have driven around the local lanes or the proposed best route. Apparently various documents have ignored cycling and cyclists, although the are is very popular with cyclists, and of course those numbers would increase with the site. Some of the response is undoubtedly a backlash against Belvoir Estate who own the land and also have events at the castle during the year which do cause a huge amount of disruption in the village. A number of organisations such as the Wildlife Trust and the Grantham Canal Society are arguing for far more detail about areas of mitigation before they make final responses. I don’t think there is a single supportive voice so far!

  • eurortraveller
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    edited March 30 #14

    I can see why the Duke of Rutland is willing to sell or lease land for a caravan site of this size With admission to Belvoir Castle + gardens standing  at £26 per person and the prospect of hundreds of extra visitors on his doorstep  it will prove quite a money spinner for him. 

    I can see too the appeal for the Club and for its well established links with the nobility. This is land close to main trunk roads in various directions,  and a site there will provide a popular stop off for two or three nights for members passing by. It will be well used by Club members. 


    I can see too why the locals are unhappy,. There will be a lot of traffic, …but I predict that the Duke of Rutland will win.

  • peedee
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    edited March 30 #15

    Having looked at the travel plans and some of the objections, and driven along google maps street view, a lot of it seems to be unfounded concern except [pssibly on public holidays.

    peedee

  • Hja
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    edited March 30 #16

    Depends whether you use the CAMC route or your sat nav!

  • Hja
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    edited March 30 #17

    Not sure my money would be on the Belvoir estate. Very unpopular and not in Lincolnshire.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 30 #18

    Going to be an interesting one. I suspect all those objecting are paying ground rent to Belvior Estate, in some way or other. There’s been a sizeable camping/ caravan site on the land by the Dirty Duck for years. Google maps shows around 40-50 outfits on the land. It’s debatable whether most of the houses in the village would be impacted, as the best route in would only affect the Northern end of the village, beyond the crossroads, not the much narrower roads through the village proper.  (Local residents seem to base their objections on outfits using Sat Navs, which might well be true of casual non Club type visitors currently stopping in the area. Whereas, Club Members are well versed in following the routes given by the Club, rather than Sat Nav) The road from Duck Lane up to the village is quite wide, with a good footpath. Have cycled it many a time, and I don’t do dangerous roads. The road from the crossroad up to Belvior Castle itself is wide and open. I can see pro’s and cons from both sides. Interesting that the Canal and Rivers Trust would ask for better surfacing of canal paths to be a consideration, it is a lovely walk/cycle, and links some very nice villages, with plenty of spurs/ bridle paths off.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 30 #19

    You have to chuckle🤭 Some of those objecting live in properties currently considered detrimental to the actual Woolsthorpe Conservation area🤷‍♀️

  • Wherenext
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    edited May 23 #20

    Looking through random headlines on google on my phone this morning I noticed an article on the BBC stating that CAMC had withdrawn their application following 60+ complaints from locals about access roads being insufficient for the proposed site. 

    I had intended to look at it further after my shower and breakfast but unfortunately the day has got away from me. Now I can't find it. Has anyone else seen it or know anything more about it? Or am I losing my mind?undecidedlaughing

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 23 #21

    Was it this, WN?

    Castle glamping plans scrapped https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cerr9x9dv19o

  • Wherenext
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    edited May 23 #22

    Yes it was TW. Thanks. My mind is safe for another day 

     

  • mickysf
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    edited May 23 #23

    Maybe they look to the Lincolnshire Wolds and North Lincolnshire for a site now. We lost Market Rasen a few years back but the area has a lot to offer and is now devoid of a club site. Lots of CLs mind which really are worth considering in this nature rich area. Some outstanding areas of natural beauty too.

  • peedee
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    edited May 23 #24

    Nver mind, there is still the Mucky Duck.

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