Green Tourism and the C&MC
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Don’t understand that term ‘eco trash’, surely we recycled, reuse far more of our after use materials today compared with the past. This whole change in our attitude to waste has change as a result of the growing Green Agenda over recent decades. I can’t remember the exact figures but our modern day vehicles are built from far more recyclable after use materials than those of old.👍
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Having done all that the eco warriors now want to stop me using my car and ride a bike at 80+ years. The mad car tax in London, 20 mph in rural Wales etc,. etc. As Littlejohn in todays Daily Mail said- One of the biggest storms in the UK was in 1703- " before Global Warming was invented". Says it all.
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Oh, and let’s not forget how less polluting they (vehicles) now are and things are improving further. All down to the Green agenda and those who have been the movers and shakers in this change. Of course the anti-eco naysayers will often jump to extremes to justify their belief, or lack of support, they can be as equally unhelpful to the cause as the extreme eco warriors. The later may have a point or two to bring to our attention but they often go about it in the wrong way.
So in summary, I’m not talking about those extreme eco activists who help the cause little, just the huge ground swell of ordinary people who just want a cleaner, better world and relationship with nature. We, the majority, can celebrate but not too much mind, still lots more to do!
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Says nothing, storms were freak and very uncommon in the UK in those centuries mentioned. The intensity and frequency today of storms we experience says it all. Today’s extreme weather events are not just experienced in the UK but across the world! The global data in my lifetime and before proves it! Unfortunately it seems global warming was ‘invented’ by us!
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Of course there were severe storms before but what is important is the increased regularity occuring now. Note the two in the last week or so.
Post edit, sorry micky didn't see you had made the same point.
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I feel you’re clutching at straws now, Fish. It as plain as the nose on your face that weather events world wide are becoming more frequent. Deny it all you like but it’s self evident.
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Met office data started in 1853, although the oldest continuous weather data from central England started around 1650s.
If we don't have real facts then how did you get the storm of 1703, or even claim it as such in your post? Can't have it both ways?.
I'm getting on now but I cannot remember yesterday's floods as being anywhere near usual winter weather.
What I can remember is very cold winters often with heavy snow when young and even in my home owning life (40 years) the leaves used to come down in September, the last lawn cut of the year was October at the very latest. I will have to cut the grass in the next week.
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I fully agree climate is changing, its the why. The world has warmed and cooled for ever., We are cleaner now than during the Industrial revolution. Fossil fuel usage is much cleaner., I cant see that me driving at 20 mph or wobbling on a bike will make any difference. A single volcanic eruption negates any savings.
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But it’s all our collective efforts that add up! Just keep doing your little bit for the Green Agenda, Fish. 👍
See it’s not the natural bits we can control or have an effect over, it’s just our contributions! Some even argue that our actions have exacerbated the natural situation, how much is in question mind!
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The problem is that we are still living with the pollution of the industrial revolution, and countries like China and India are now having their own industrial revolutions, with all the pollution that they bring.
Collectively, we have to change. Not for our sakes, but for the sakes of our children and grandchildren.
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Very true, we must! Thing is though, the USA is firmly placed between those two countries you mention when looking at the global production of green house gasses. It also appears that China are now one of the most active countries in their attempting to rectify their contributions. They have a lot to do, we live in hope!
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Hot air indeed! Going daft now but who introduced volcanism into the discussion. However, as it’s been mentioned, one mega eruption, or a meteor strike could end our global civilisation in a blink.
Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t care for our planet and look after what we currently have in the meantime. Hopefully ‘we’ will get a few more millennia out of it along with the rest of nature out there who equally own this planet of ours.
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Interesting to see the latest report of the efforts in London to reduce pollution.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67288327
Fisherman wrote this:
I can't see that me driving at 20 mph or wobbling on a bike will make any difference
I find that that sort of attitude is the biggest individual problem we have. The "I'm only 1 person so it makes no difference". I can't believe that someone like yourself Fish, a person who has promoted himself as a true guardian of his natural environment, doesn't care about the environment.
Why not, if that is the attitude to take, do we not all go back to filling landfills with tons of plastic etc and dump sewage into rivers and seas?
I do it, the 20 mph and wobbling on a bike thing, because I can and if I didn't then my conscience would tell me I'm making things worse. I may not be making it any better but if loads more join and vote for people with similar attitudes then just maybe things might get better. At least my conscience will be clear.
ps like the new avatar Fish.
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The important thing is that we increasingly do whatever we can, wherever we can. To throw up our arms and declare that it’s pointless and do absolutely nothing is unthinkable for many. But to be clear, the Ulez is aimed specifically at ensuring clean air standards at street level.
This article may be of interest.
http://www.heathrowairwatch.org.uk/latest
What is interesting is how today’s (last decade or so) air quality in the city has been improved dramatically.The monitoring results these days remains almost always in the green! That wasn’t the case when I was a youth, it was truly dreadful.
Of course the air travel industry must improve their ‘lot’ and they have policies and plans to do just that. Whether these are far reaching enough is, of course, debatable. One thing that is indisputable is that at street level things are so very much better these days and it’s clear why and how this improving situation has come about.
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