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  • Tinwheeler
    Tinwheeler Forum Participant Posts: 23,135 ✭✭✭
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    edited July 2023 #32

    Well done! I believe they’re only now clearing up the carnage and the whole scheme is under review with a different Council leader in place👍

  • mickysf
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    edited July 2023 #33

    Precisely, it’s about managing, maintaining and enhancing where we can. These photos are of my daughter’s fence line. It used to be covered in building rubble and discarded household detritus when she bought the property. Cleaned and then sown with a commercially sold Bee and Pollinator flower seed mix (some native wildflowers included) this it it today, 18months on. The increase in wildlife therein is phenomenal. Oh, and it will be cut in September and the seeds hopefully collected and or dispersed naturally.
    In contrast, a dwelling a mile or so away, a derelict garden (deceased owner) has gone from acceptable to a mess absolutely covered in horsetail and dock which is spreading to adjacent gardens. Our friends, the neighbours, are pulling their hair out but until it’s sold nothing is apparently going to happen. Can’t be a good selling point can it!

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2023 #34

    I am a regular seed Bomber, try and throw seeds from things like poppies, aquilegia, lychnis, nepeta, etc…around. Our neighbours are wonderful, don’t get me wrong, we haven’t had a cross word in 35 years, and if they are struggling, I will offer help. It’s just a slightly misguided approach, and I am trying to manage it as best I can. We all help each other out with things.

    I am not a fan of the heavily tarmac covered Club Sites, but you do see some nice planted areas on some, and some of the floral displays by staff have been lovely. I am guessing staff are under pressure to do more in the same working timescale, so it’s not always as easy to deliver the extras. Not been on a Club Site since last September, in fact only done around six nights in last couple of years, so well out of the Club Site loop nowadays. Like others, we love the variety you get using CLs. One visit might be a big orchard, another might be a little bit of someone’s beautiful garden. We have even done churchyards😁

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited July 2023 #35

    CS

    Thanks for some photographic evidence. What you posted, to me, looks like a mess and unkempt. It won't apply to all sites but some have swaths of grass well behind the pitches and that could be left uncut, perhaps not only for May. However small areas of grass between pitches should really be maintain properly in my view. Whether there is a need to cut the grass as frequently or as short  as in the past is maybe not necessary but it should be easy on the eye. What the Club could do is the plant hedges between pitches which would not only offer greater privacy but also provide a habitat, all year round, for birds and insects?

    David

  • brue
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    edited July 2023 #36

    This is our area of unmown grass at home, it's not a large area and the only interference by me has been the addition of a wild mallow. There are several different grass species  growing at different heights, grasses are interesting plants, these attract insects including meadow butterflies. Our pets love it. However this is "managed" by us and will be strimmed off later in the summer and the undergrowth de-thatched etc. As some of us have said before these things need management to keep them in good heart. They do help wildlife so are useful to all, I've enjoyed seeing what emerges. smile

  • brue
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    edited July 2023 #37

    PS I prefer to see tidy sites but am happy to see areas less well tended if it doesn't impinge on the overall enjoyment.

  • mickysf
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    edited July 2023 #38

    Tidyness and nature are a bit of an oxymoron unless you can see the beauty of the Fibonacci sequence🌻😉 Went for a walk across the old hay meadows stretching from Harmby to Leyburn and then on to Old Glebe Meadows last year, wildflower adorned and abuzz with wildlife. Crossing an ‘ordinary’ sheep field later in the day was almost a desert and practically bereft of life in comparison.

    https://data.wildlifetrusts.org/reserves/leyburn-old-glebe-nature-reserve

    Well worth a visit from Lower Wensleydale CaMC site at this time of year.

     

  • brue
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    edited July 2023 #39

     Sounds nice Micky, thanks for the info. smile

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2023 #40

    My pleasure.

    The smaller strips of grass between pitches were cut as normal it was the larger spaces that weren't. 

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  • Wherenext
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    edited July 2023 #42

    You have my sympathy Ttda but I'm really sorry to say that one of our neighbours makes yours look beautifully manicured.

    Like yourself we are constantly fighting a losing battle and the other neighbour is taking lessons from him.

    It's beginning to get too much for the 1½ of us.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited July 2023 #43

    The only thing against my suggestion is that the Club might use it as an excuse to charge an extra fiver for the privilege like to do for so called Premium Pitches which have hedgeswink

    David

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2023 #44

    The only time I have really complained about something on a Club Site was because of lawn mowing. Two weeks solid of being mown round at every breakfast nearly drove us mad at Marazion one year, an absolute obsession. It really was a “boys with big toys” situation, no females involved. We took ourselves off to look at a CL nearby and spent the next thirteen years staying there instead. 

    Woe betide the Wardens if anything is perceived to be out of place. It’s camping Jim, but not as we know (or like) it. Having watched one individual hand sweeping the grass various times per day, (again at Marazion) you do have to wonder why such folks choose to be out in the countryside at all. 🤷‍♀️ Sometimes the entertainment antics are worth the pitch fee alone!

     

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  • JollyKernow
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    edited July 2023 #45

    "woe betide the wardens if anything is perceived to be out of place". It's not like that in my world Ttda. I remember that warden at 3ways, sometimes it only takes minutes to get the measure of peopleundecided. Long retired now thankfully. Strange though apart from the paddock area the grass at Marazion didn't really grow that much, all those monterey pines sucking up the moisture. Funny, we had a couple that would sweep the grass outside their van 3 times a day at Godrevy, they even put in a complaint because we allowed the rabbits to run too freely!

    JK

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2023 #46

    Very sandy as well JK. My woe be tide bit was in sympathy with staff, I think some folks expect far too much in terms of pristine grounds maintenance from what are essentially camp sites. Clean, safe, tidy is good. Super manicured all the time is expecting too much.

    I am guessing it might be same couple, moved to Godrevy. 😁 Have to admit, it was an amusing watch, particularly after drinks with friends. We used to go across to Marazion regular to meet up with holiday friends. 

    We used to go up to Carradale in Autumn, not with vans but took all cabins up there. Along with our three terriers, family also took another few dogs, a small army of ferrets and quite a few licensed guns. It was close season for caravan site, and I have never seen so many rabbits in all my life. It wasn’t for OH and me, but each evening there was a culling of those with myxi. Family were friends with owners, kept a boat up there. It’s a great location, we had some fun times up there, and beautiful scenery.

  • mickysf
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    edited July 2023 #47

    And let’s not forget the ‘No Cut Hedge’ campaign which greatly helps nesting birds during the breeding season. Good to see the farmers around us have adopted this practise.👍

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2023 #48

    Micky, do you actually drive a car or ride a bike?....or even try to navigate footpaths?

    living in rural Somerset we have many hedges....the overgrown ones alongside roads force walkers off paths and into the traffic, forces cars to share the 'non existent' centre lane....even the larger the roads have seemingly morphed from two (small lanes) into one...

    On some paths, Cyclists and pedestrians are supposed to share a carriageway....impossible as the creeping hedge (and verge) has taken it over...and don't get hit by the hedge as you cycle, it'll cause you serious damage....

    some paths had a line in the centre for bikes and people to share evenly...over the years the centre line seems to have mysteriously moved several feet towards the hedge...as if by magic.

    oh....and accessing the local public footpaths.....I now know why folk carry machetes with them....

    our patch of countryside has acres and acres of 'support for wildlife'...there's no reason to give over every other inch of infrastructure as well....

    Common sense and reasonable control....both sadly lacking....

    still, the rates should go down for this pathetic effort at 'council services'...👎

  • Arch
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    edited July 2023 #49

    Our council gave up on cutting hedges and grass years ago exclaiming the need for cost savings now they have the no mow and environmental card to play next it will be not repairing pot holes is good for the the environment as it will deter driving, I live in the countryside surrounded by fields and woodland  I  am far from ashamed that I have a well managed garden with an abundance of shrubs, perennials and flowers it's full of bees and other pollinators it is also visited by a large variety of birds I also have a cut lawn that is used for relaxation and leisure I would not in any circumstances not mow or weed and let the garden go to pot, because thats what it is a garden so when I go away I want to be on a well kept and managed site not an uncontrolled plot of land that claims to help wildlife.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2023 #50

    It’s like anything else, it has to be done properly, and for the right reasons. Cost saving should be a by product, not the be all and end all. Interesting article here about different areas of UK, and methods of increasing biodiversity on our road verges. 

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/mar/14/on-the-verge-a-quiet-roadside-revolution-is-boosting-wildflowers-aoe

     

  • KjellNN
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    edited July 2023 #51

    Not long back from a 5 week tour in England, with all the warm weather in June we found many road signs were totally overgrown, and vegetation encroaching on the roads, even A roads.  Other road signs in some places were so filthy or faded that they were barely readable.

    Yes, we have sat nav, but when unfamiliar with an area it is good to have the road signs as confirmation.    And STOP and GIVE WAY signs  really do need to be visible.