Smart Metering Trial

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  • K Brown
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    edited June 2023 #362

    Will the expansion of charging for electricity usage, not lead to the use of more diesel generators being used on sites? 

    There will no doubt be complaints about the noise these things make, but is there any “rule” which prohibits their use?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2023 #363

    Here you go - a 'consideration' rule.

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2023 #364

    An interesting point is using a generator cheaper than metered electric?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2023 #365

    I doubt it. In fact it’s probably dearer. The one we had some years ago (not for camping) used to get through about a gallon of petrol an hour.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2023 #367

    I’m sure things have moved on and it would be amazing if they hadn't. It's still dearer than metered lekky at 42/44p (if I recall correctly) per kWh where one hour drawing 2kw would cost 84/88p as opposed to around £1.50 for just over a litre of petrol in the gennie. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2023 #369

    I agree about solar.  It’s quiet too 👍🏻

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2023 #370

    I’d go one further Tinny-it is silent👍🏻. The new gen panels perform well in overcast conditions & even produce watt power in heavy cloud👍🏻. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2023 #371

    Wonderful! Who needs a gennie🤷🏻‍♂️

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2023 #372

    The only issue is-those contour panels(thin & flat) are not up to the task demanded of them. The framed ones with cooling space under them are the best, biggest(wattage) anyone can fit in the space. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2023 #373

    Thanks for the heads up 👍🏻

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2023 #377

    BB, I think you sell your fellow travellers short. WiFi comms have been with us whilst the current generations were younger thus growing up knowing how these things work. Being excluded from online payments & cashless systems I think is by choice not by concern or fear. Twas ever thus👍🏻

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2023 #378

    You’re going over old ground here, BB, and talk as if it’s a done deal set in stone. Maybe you have forgotten that this is a trial at 2 sites. Being a trial, it will show up weaknesses and drawbacks and any other issues as well as positive points. That is the point of a trial. 👍

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2023 #380

    That’s the best way. Wait and see.

  • JollyKernow
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    edited June 2023 #381

    Morning

    Re your second paragraph. I think you should replace "the desirability of some users" with "the overall majority of users". 

     

    JK

  • peedee
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    edited June 2023 #382

    That is the mindset of the current majority of users, metering will change that in much the same way as the price of energy in the home has.

    peedee

  • Hja
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    edited June 2023 #383

    We have a lithium battery and 120 w solar so are quite happy off grid. Probably not enough for winter, but we don’t camp in winter. I am not sure why there is a need for generators at all. Why not use power banks? Then you have you mains sockets if needed. If we find that we need to use the Remoska or a hair dryer then that is the route we would take. It can be charged at home before leaving, or from the 12v dashboard socket in car or van while on the move.

  • KjellNN
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    edited June 2023 #384

    If we invest in a new caravan, possible if DD and family want to make it a shared van, then we would certainly fit a good solar panel, a decent battery, and a refillable gas system.   We do have a generator, used when we were building our house, but we would never think to inflict that on fellow holidaymakers, surprised they are allowed on Club sites at all.

    As to using tech and payments on line, we are slightly put off by this car park stuff.....too many different apps needed it seems.....but well into internet banking etc.   We do however know quite a few people, much younger than us, who would never use internet banking, so all this is not just an age thing.

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  • KjellNN
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    edited June 2023 #386

    That sounds like an interesting proposition YT......would you care to share the location?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2023 #387

    When picking up our caravan from its last service every single new caravan for sale from the entry range Sprite upwards had an AC unit fitted (as well as a motor mover) and quite a few sold stickers so yes I would agree.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2023 #388

    +1, that is precisely what I have H👍🏻. No wiring up or around or thru anything it is all freestanding which can then be used in house, in a Camper/Moho or a Cvan😊

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  • K Brown
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    edited June 2023 #390

    Ok, so those who do not want an EHU, will do doubt say that they camp off grid very successfully. But at some point they have to come down to Earth, and dump their waste. In England there is no such thing as “wild camping”, so why would they want to drop into a site, use the facilities, then go off again.

    No doubt they will all come all down on me, but we all make waste, whatever way we dispose of it. It all needs to be paid for. Does anyone now live in a house with no electric?

    Tin hat on

     

     

     

  • N1805
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    edited June 2023 #391

    A generator would add weight affecting payload for m’homes/campervans but may not be a problem for car/caravans.

    As with everything we all live life differently and choice is out there