Pitch Prices

Geejay
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edited March 2023 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

I was thinking we might like to go to Oban, or nearby (we've been before), as there's a good off-road cycle track, which you can extend by catching the Corran Ferry and a quiet road on the other side.  There are two Club sites in the area, one at Onich and another at Barcaldine which are suitable.  I compared prices for 2 adults, 5 nights from 16th April, hardstanding with ehu: C&MHC Bunree £191; C&CC (with age concession) £107.

I wonder which one I should choose?

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  • brue
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    edited March 2023 #2

    I think I might choose a CL instead, it would be the one at Port Appin. smile

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2023 #3

    I'm not sure why you're asking us? It's totally your choice, just choose the one that gives you what you want in terms of VFM and quality? 

  • JollyKernow
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    edited March 2023 #4

    What's the comparison without the age concession? Might be helpful to someone who is still working.

    JK

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2023 #5

    I suppose it depends on what price you put on a view, which of course from Bunree is wonderful? It's also an easy walk to the ferry. £38 seems par for the course these days and compares pretty much with some of the commercial sites we have used recently. 

    David

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2023 #6

    I guess with the 2 sites mentioned it also depends if you want to be cloistered in a walled in space or on the coast with glorious views. 

    North Ledaig would be my choice as it has, in my opinion, even better views and, unlike the other two sites, is virtually midge free.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited March 2023 #7

    I never went to a hotel, or restaurant , or caravan site, just because they were the cheapest in the area. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2023 #8

    Bunree is 35 miles from Oban, so that’s a 70 mile round trip on a cycle. It’s not far off an hours drive each way.

    All depends what you want to do and see. North Ledaig is very nice, another option. We use our MH for touring, so we might stay at any of the options rather than just the one, including CLs😁

  • brue
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    edited March 2023 #9

    https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/certificated-locations/scotland/argyll--bute/oban/bioran-dubh-croft/

    The CL I suggested is in a midway spot, the views around Port Appin are better than Bunree and there's a passenger ferry to the Isle of Lismore. Excellent walks and cycling too..take your bike to Lismore? A lot cheaper than the bigger sites but you can't price the experience.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2023 #11

    Blimey! .... when did the sun come out Bunree? 😉

  • peedee
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    edited March 2023 #12

    No some of us retired much younger. sealed

    peedee

  • brue
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    edited March 2023 #13

    https://www.ardfernmotorhomepark.com/

    Stay here if you like, family friends run it, 25 miles south of Oban in a beautiful spot. smile

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2023 #14

    It’s still a lovely location, even when the weather isn’t so kind. It would be our choice.

  • brue
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    edited March 2023 #15

    It's certainly a lovely area to explore. smile

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2023 #16

    It's funny how memory plays tricks, I thought we were there last perhaps ten years ago but after searching for the photos, it was 21! 

  • Whittakerr
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    edited March 2023 #17

    I think the question was rhetorical, which you probably knew.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2023 #19

    No I didn't, or more precisely cannot, know actually. If a question is asked, and as I'm not a mind reader, it's very difficult to know if it's rhetorical or not?

    So what's the point of this thread if not to ask a question? What is the OP saying? One price is different from another? With all due respect - so what?

    Prices differ all the time between campsites and people should choose the one they want based, as been posted, not only on prices but other factors that are important to those booking. 

     

  • Geejay
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    edited March 2023 #20

    “So what?”  We last stayed at Bunree in October 2020. Today’s price for the equivalent days (not dates) is £10 dearer per night for 2 people. £24 is now £34. I don’t think that’s a reasonable increase.  41% in 2 years. 

    My criteria for choosing a site is that it has reasonable toilet/shower facilities and is convenient for walking/cycling straight from the site to do routes I have previously researched as suitable for our abilities. And it is rural. I’m not interested in the view as I live in a beautiful part of Scotland with an exceptional view and have previously lived in several such and have visited most parts of Scotland in my life, so a site with a view is a bonus but not essential. 

    Price is not a criteria either unless I feel it is a rip off. Eg, a site we have been to before now charges £2 per dog per night.  We have 2 dogs so we won’t be going there again. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2023 #21

    Again I'm not sure, like the OP, what your point is here GJ, you don't think it's a reasonable increase and that's great, no one is forcing you to pay it and choose something different, but likewise others might think it is reasonable. Totally up to the person booking.

    For myself (as we're trading insights) and as with all things I buy it's not about any reasonable increases it's about do I want to buy it or not? Do I want to stay on that site or not and if yes I buy/book. For myself it's never about what the increase is from last year and is it reasonable. Those are the prices.

     

     

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2023 #22

    Please correct me if I am wrong but in October 2020 did we not have the advantage of the reduction in VAT which would have made the price better value than normal? That was also before we have seen a massive increase in energy costs.

    David

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2023 #23

    There are lots of alternatives for touring nowadays. Yes much has become more expensive, for a variety of reason, but there are more options now, particularly if like the OP you have a MH or camper van.

    The trick is to decide what you need and want from each particular site option you choose, and decide if that represents value for money to you.

    From a Club Site point of view, we enjoyed using CS for years, but they are rarely best vfm to us anymore, for a variety of reasons, so we go elsewhere. Those who use primarily Club Sites might be a bit shocked at some of the price rises, but will just have to go with it if they still provide what is wanted and needed. A little bit of compromise can be a good thing👍

  • moulesy
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    edited March 2023 #24

    Good point - we stayed in a cottage in Coniston in October 2020 and the equivalent price this year shows a whopping 70% increase. Although club site prices are no longer of interest to us, I'm still often surprised that folk (a) make irrelevant comparisons and (b) focus so much on price when other factors are surely more important in choosing a holiday destination. undecided

  • brue
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    edited March 2023 #25

    We're off to a site soon which is already over £6 pn same time next year, difficult to see what's happening with prices except that they are on the up. The C&CC does indeed offer some good discounts and not just for over 60s (in fact they're offering discounts on the discounts just now) but they use the discounts to fill up pitches outwith popular holiday times.  "Easter" holidays in Scotland are always in the first two weeks of April so the pricing areas can move a bit as Easter itself is sometimes after the two week holiday....take out a calculator to work all that out....wink

  • Geejay
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    edited March 2023 #26

    Re the VAT reduction, my confirmation email stated: “Please note that the VAT reduction is not reflected in this confirmation and will be applied upon arrival at the site, when paying for your stay.”  That was the basis of my calculation, ie pre-vat reduction.  A year earlier at the same site I paid virtually the same amount per night for two of us.

    re focussing on price vs other factors, I thought I’d already explained that. I still think, for my priorities the Club is over charging and I’ll be going elsewhere, as long as we can get a shower

     

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2023 #27

    Oooh, GJ, that’s brave of you to use a group name which has resulted in many a Deleted User post in the past. 😱

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2023 #28

    I think there is a real difference, with those that have the means to have a caravan/MH in the first place, then have the means to tax (either the larger towcar or MH), insurance costs, service costs, perhaps storage fees, and then of course money for fuel to go away, with being able to afford and preferring to spend their money elsewhere to get better value for money or stay longer elsewhere on a cheaper site. Totally different in my view. 

    And that's great, each person will pay what for what they want and I fully support that but I'm not sure why those that do want to use club sites need labelling in any way?

  • Tammygirl
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    edited March 2023 #29

    Of it was me it would be North Ledaig everytime over either of the other 2 mentioned in the OP.

    We have used Bunree many years ago but I have no wish to return there. 

    C&C site we have not stayed at yet but will probably at some point but not in midge season.

    Brue, I've taken note of your suggestions, thank you. 

  • eurortraveller
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    edited March 2023 #30

    Good answer Tammy,  I won’t join the argument about this Cub’s prices versus that  Club’s prices. If I had a self contained motorhome I would be over to Fidden Farm on Mull. No bookings, no one turned away. I like that attitude. It appeals.

  • brue
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    edited March 2023 #31

    Another one for the list Euror and close to Iona too, sounds good!