Steamer Quay refurb removal of non EHU pitches

Hja
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edited January 2023 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Just had my copy of the December magazine and noticed that the economy pitches are to be removed at Steamer Quay as part of the refurbishment.  As I understand it, these are the non-EHU pitches.  Isnt this somewhat short sighted in the current climate?  Surely more will be using off grid as a way of saving money?  We certainly will be next year.  Maybe there is some special issue at this site?  I havnt stayed there, just noticed it in the magazine. 

 

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  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #2

    If reports are correct this organisation is going in the metering of ehu pitches so it will mater not what pitch you use if not wanting hookups

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2022 #3

    The site formerly had no EHU pitches, HJA, but the refurb encompasses EHU provision for the first time. Whether this is a move forward or a retrograde step is a matter of opinion.🤷🏻‍♂️

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited December 2022 #4

    I wonder if the site will remain as popular after the refurbishment as it seems to have been when it was without EHU? I guess it's location helps but surely a major attraction was the lack of EHU and the price. No doubt it will be a lot more expensive in the future.

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #6

    Quite possible ,although from what I have been advised the "trial"next year? is to be northern sites

  • Burgundy
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    edited December 2022 #7

    From the website:-

    Steamer Quay Club Campsite is due to undergo a full redevelopment.

    Economy pitches will be converted to 46 new non-awning serviced pitches, while the work will also see new motor van waste points, new service points, a new electric vehicle charging point and a refurbishment of the toilet block. The campsite is currently closed and is expected to reopen during summer 2023 (subject to planning permission, therefore exact details and dates are subject to change).

  • brue
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    edited December 2022 #8

    I can't recall the site being underused even though it was all non ehu, although it could get soggy in bad weather. I think the idea now is to extend the opening season and squeeze in (3?) more pitches. Because all the new pitches will be serviced the prices will no doubt be high. I hope the roadside tarmac pitches will not form part of the new set up but who knows. 

    As said before, just a few yards away motorhomes can stay overnight on the council owned riverside car park for a very reasonable fee. 

  • peedee
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    edited December 2022 #9

    I believe a condition of the new lease i(25 years?) is that the Club develop it. It may not be cut and dried until planning permission is given?

    peedee

     
  • cyberyacht
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    edited December 2022 #10

    That is interesting, if true. The further north you are the less solar available. Are CAMC deliberately setting up the trial to fail so that they can say "Nobody wants non EHU" ?

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2022 #11

    As a service pitch at peak is going to cost around £40 a night, even after a £5 reduction because the electricity is metered, would it make any difference to wether you stayed there CY?

  • peedee
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    edited December 2022 #12

    I cannot find any planning documents on the South Hams council site, I assume they have not yet been submitted?????

    peedee

     
  • brue
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    edited December 2022 #13

    I raised the issue on the awning or non awning thread I started on here. The new development at Steamer Quay is on the way now, it will be all serviced and non awning. Personally it's not something I consider to be on the average members "want" list. 

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #14

    That doe not surprise me 

    A site in.the Cotswolds had about 20 hardstanding pitches  installed then had to get retrospective planning permission after a neighbour queried the installation 

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #15

    Probably the same vocal few that have as the club say "you asked we listened "smile

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2022 #16

    Sounds like the whole complexion of the site will change with a completely different demographic making use of it.

    yes, probably more inclusive, as more need EHU, but possibly at the expense of those who use it currently for what it is...a cheap (ish) site in a good location.

    the post refurb prices will certainly make current users think again about its change of 'value'.

  • brue
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    edited December 2022 #17

    I felt the site blended in well with the local residents, it was very low key although never cheap due to it's central position. It will be very different in the future! 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2022 #18

    I have always shied away from Steamer Quay  because of the lack of EHU. I wonder how many others have for the same reason? It is such a good location that I am sure you could easily spend a week there, in fact depending on when the refurb is done I may well be a customer in 2023. The non awning bit doesn't worry me as we only use the Fiamma as a sunshade and it's always put in at night, I assume this will be allowed as seems to be the case for current non awning pitches assuming space rules can be met. We will have to wait an see about prices but I doubt they will be cheap and could probably come as a shock to those who regularly use the site in its current configuration. 

    David

  • brue
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    edited December 2022 #19

    You'd be surprised how many enjoyed holidays there David, families with children, awnings up for extra space etc. It was a pleasant experience all round. We noticed last year that bigger motorhomes were arriving, I think it will disappoint those who appreciated the relaxed atmosphere, it will now be bright lights and music and doubled in price! wink

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2022 #20

    If in that area, we would have used it in either configuration. However, I can understand the CC’s desire to upgrade it if they have a decent lease. Service pitches, where they have been installed,  are very popular, often selling out well before the standard version. Given it’s small size making  them all service seems a sensible decision. As with DK the non awning bit wouldn’t worry me. It will perhaps be more popular with touring MH’s as they only generally bother with wind outs.

  • peedee
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    edited December 2022 #21

    It was never open at the times I visit the area, it closed too early in the season. My choice would be Longmarsh if I just wanted to visit Totnes.

    peedee

     
  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2022 #22

    You've missed the point CY, we're talking about metering not a non EHU option although it could be thought of as the same, which I thought you were in favour of?

    And anyway as someone actually living in the north I can assure you there is plenty of solar, in fact we get more daylight hours in summer than you do so just the opposite then. People do actually go off grid even further north than here, Scotland I believe.

    Do you ever come up this far north?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2022 #23

    Certainly when it gets SP and what's been posted on here about the area it will be on my list of sites to visit.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #24

    I don’t think we’re talking about hours CY, I think I remember it being sub 1hr difference. The uk ain’t the USA we don’t have time zones👍🏻

  • brue
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    edited December 2022 #25

    You're right and the site details still say subject to planning permission, I wrongly assumed it was all under way....it's very much an eco area, I'm surprised at the proposed plans! Perfect spot for a "green" site....which it was...wink

    If people don't know Totnes they're "keen on green", look up the hydro energy Archimedes Screw on the Dart. 

  • peedee
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    edited December 2022 #26

    The Club is probably stil in discussions with the council as to what is acceptable to them. No sense in submitting plans that would be rejected. I have been trying to find where I read the lease was conditional on developing the site, must have been one of the council meetings but I have not come across it again.

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  • peedee
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    edited December 2022 #27

    but I have not come across it again.

    Found the lead story >here<

    peedee

     
  • Frank Gill
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    edited December 2022 #29

    Was it not a condition of the new lease and also SHDC wanted it to be open all year ?

  • cyberyacht
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    edited December 2022 #30

    Oh yes. Last year I spent a month in the Cairngorms. All but two nights were off EHU.

    I am also aware of the "midnight sun" aspect but even then, there is less solar power available. It can be off set by having agreed panels that track during the day but that is too complex for LV fitted panels.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited December 2022 #31

    Do I look like a member of the Rothschild family?