Electric car charging on Club sites

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  • Unknown
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    edited December 2022 #32
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  • ChocolateTrees
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    edited December 2022 #33

    That’s not preferential treatment, any more than a motorhome can use a drive over waste waste point where a caravan can’t. It’s simply using the sites capabilities with the users equipment. 
    If a site had an LPG pump, there is no reason at all it couldn’t be used to fill a safe fill bottle, or MH or car LPG tank. They just don’t have them 🤷‍♂️ Should I be upset because I can’t use a TV repeater bollard, because I don’t take a TV with me?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2022 #34

    The electricity is already there supplying the LV to be used in whatever way the pitch occupier sees fit.

    There are no dispensing LPG pumps on pitches (in the same way as there are no diesel pumps) so it is not a like for like situation. 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #35

    I guess that’s along the lines of awning heater or no awning heater? EV or no EV👍🏻

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2022 #36

    We might yet see EV drivers considered to be pariahs 🤣🤣🤣

  • mickysf
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    edited December 2022 #37

    Oh, let’s just get round to paying for what we consume, that’s the only fair way!

  • GEandGJE
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    edited December 2022 #38

    Charging an EV should be done at a dedicated charging point and the club should consider a partnership with with a EV charging point company to offset any cost to the club.

  • ChocolateTrees
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    edited December 2022 #39

    I don’t think paying for EV charging is in dispute. EV drivers should not have a free ride (pun intended). Installing full EV chargers would be one option, but it needs space (which may not be available), and won’t solve electricity use on pitch issue. Indeed it could make it worse. Providing say 2 to 4 paid for chargers, and then having a site full of 16A bollards with no metering is asking for abuse. Not that I condone that or would participate. But if you needed a charge, the chargers were full, you had nothing else running overnight, and an available socket, it would be seriously tempting to plug in. Especially if your neighbour was running a fan heater all night. 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #40

    Plus it would need a bank of them, in time they will be well used. GE&GJE makes an excellent point re partner👍🏻

  • huskydog
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    edited December 2022 #41

    It won’t be long before runnng an EV will cost more than a ICE , then they will be back to buying secondhand ICE cars 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #42

    That makes sense, there are folk who happily belong in the ice age👍🏻

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #43

    We have four EV chargers in the carpark of our shopping parade that  can be easily seen from where we live and I have only ever seen one car using them ,and that is a company car of one of our neighbours,

    PS  just an aside I note the TV advert for the latest to be released BMW electric car is covering themselves by saying word to the effects of  range is not  to be taken as what is advertised,it depends on how it is driven

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2022 #44

    I read recently one country (can’t remember where ) was planning prohibiting there use on certain days, due to power supply issues in an effort to avoid blackouts. 

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #45

    It is Switzerland  

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #46

    It is Switzerland and as you say to avoid blackouts charging of EVs is to be banned for all vehicles unless needed for essential trips 

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  • brue
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    edited December 2022 #48

    Definitely not, oil prices have gone up again, we'll soon be into year 7 of owning an EV, it's bad enough filling up the motorhome. wink

  • ChocolateTrees
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    edited December 2022 #49

    And its not so much banning as limiting their use under stage 3 of a 4 stage plan to reduce load in the event of power shortages. For details see here.

    The UK has has 2 such events so far under the load shedding program. One on Nov 30th, and one on Dec 1st. I noticed because I participated, moving load away from the peak stress hour to elsewhere in the day. 

  • brue
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    edited December 2022 #50

    Just be glad that the UK went down a more self sufficient route than many European countries!

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #51

    I am reiterating the info to another posterundecided

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #52

    My Sportage auto is Sorned so it may well appreciate in value in the futurewink

  • CholseyGrange
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    edited December 2022 #53

    Some CL sites - including Cholsey Grange CL in Bucks - now have commercial EV chargers on site.

  • huskydog
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    edited December 2022 #54

    Yes , I think it will ,because it is fit for purpose cool

  • ChocolateTrees
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    edited December 2022 #56

    That's great to hear! Looking you up on a well know CL availability app, I see that you meter electricity in cold weather, and include 10kWh in the pitch rate. This is _such_ a sensible option. And a 22kW charger - so a decent charge in a short space of time too. :-)

    It gives both options, and prevents free-loading. If the charger is occupied, the driver can still slow charge, knowing they will still pay for the privilege, and they can fast charge if available. 

    You don't loose out, and you have annother sale incentive for campers to visit!

    It would be great to see this adopted more widely. 

  • Rowena
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    edited December 2022 #57

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  • watto64
    watto64 Forum Participant Posts: 162
    edited December 2022 #58

    On the Pandy site back in October a CAMC official rocked up in his Tesla and plugged it into a bollard on an empty pitch. Chatting to the warden later i asked of the visitor had paid the EV charging levi, you dont have to guess what the answer was.