Is EHU metering a good investment?

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  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #242

    During  the school holidays then families are in the majority of site users(or well off grandparents trying or not to keep grandchildren under.control)

    Out of the peak periods it is very much the older retired generation that is keeping sites going

  • mickysf
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    edited December 2022 #243

    Another question may be can you buy your units now for next season? May be worth a punt as charges may head ever upwards. I guess the answer will be you don’t actually purchase units but your money is set aside against final cost, I may be wrong 

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #244

    I think it depends on the type of meter as there are some that can be altered as to what the units price is?

  • SueandKeith
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    edited December 2022 #245

    We use hot water for washing up, heating the tank for half an hour or so beforehand.

    We wash at the caravan in the same manner, but use the communal shower block for showering.

    We use the gas hob for pans occasionally.  We don't use the oven, but cook on a tepenyaki grill every other day. I should say that in the seasonal van and in our Eriba tourer a gas bottle lasts us 2 years.

    We boil a low wattage kettle for tea and coffee, using minimal amounts of water.

    When we've used the Alde heating we usually left it on overnight but set at 16C. 

    At the end of the season we could have been refunded the unused units.  They did warn us that the 2023 price for units would undoubtedly be more expensive.  They suggested that they would revise the number of units when we return in March to reflect any change.

    K&S

     

  • mickysf
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    edited December 2022 #246

    Makes sense, it may then be worthwhile knowing how you are metered and how that meter calculates the cost. These different systems make it difficult if not nigh on impossible to make comparisons, let alone crystal ball gaze. 

  • mickysf
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    edited December 2022 #247

    What on earth has the consistency or cost of cheese got to do with it?😳 Further more I was considering the big picture, the whole of the industry, its future, not just the club.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2022 #248

    A very interesting post thank you. Possibly reflects the usage differences in a relatively small outfit (as it’s an Eriba, I am guessing) and some of the big, power heavy outfits, with lots more gadgets inside. So7nds like you have found your bit of value for money heaven👍

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #249

    It seems this clubs recruitment at EGH could be questioned when cost is a priority, looking at some of the posts that are being advertised undecided

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2022 #250

    So a lower number of lower paying campers makes more money than fuller sites at higher sometimes double prices?

    I don't know the exact figures but both are needed.

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  • SueandKeith
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    edited December 2022 #252

    Sorry, TDA.  The seasonal van is a Sterling Moonstone.

    As an aside, we caravan with family members who take all the heavy-wattage gadgets from home.  One of them, who doesn't understand how electricity works, trips their electric every day by using kettle, hair dryer and 2kw heating simultaneously!!

     

     

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #253

    In conversations (it pays to talk) OH and I have had with working as well as retired sites staff,and the comment by the finance director at the AGM said "dark clouds are gathering" it is it seems it is not just the UKs financial situation being talked about ? If site investment is to be maintained , short time left on numerous leases one subject and lack recruitment of coal face staff another

  • mickysf
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    edited December 2022 #254

    How many of us read this?

    https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media-centre/press-releases/open-letter-to-pm/

    I know it was a life time ago as far as Prime Ministers are concerned but only a blink in time to the rest of us! I wonder if that meeting ever happened, if so what were the conclusions?

  • mickysf
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    edited December 2022 #255

    Some talk of charitable status or a possible reduction in the rate of VAT to assist the industry.  Regarding the former, that precedent has been set in another unrelated industry. There are those so called ‘high end’ providers of Education who are awarded charitable status. Unlike these, the tourist industry pretty much serves all of our community and may, in my opinion, be far more deserving.

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2022 #257

    I agree. For it to be a real test they have to select two regular standard pitches. Generally the pitches on Club sites currently classed as "economy" are such that they are in odd corners where it is difficult, or uneconomic to provide electricity.

    David

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  • mickysf
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    edited December 2022 #259

    Oh, I can hear the outcry from some now. The motorhome fraternity has a far higher occurrence of ‘off grid’ units than caravans. Remember the name change and how that was met on CT? I do! Now if those pitches were not in less appreciated areas let’s now be beware of that ‘wrath’ which would, I’m sure, follow.

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2022 #261

    My apologies for making assumptions. But that makes your stay even more value for money, well done you.👏👏

    I would suggest a £5 fine everytime the tripper trips the electric. Reimbursed if he/she/they can last a month without tripping once!😁 Effort needs a reward👍

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #262

    With the hudreds of millllions of pounds of furlough? money handed out to all sorts of dodgy  companies and still not returned or found   ,A few more to actually help save a very large part of the UKs income is peanuts

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2022 #263

    I sort of get what you are saying. Many firms pay their staff such low wages that they have to rely on some form of benefit to top up their wages. Meanwhile, the shareholders rake in the dividends. Next were such a company, not sure if the situation has altered at all. This affects us all, our taxes one way or another are winding their way very successfully into the greedy paws of shareholders. 

    Not the same as the Club asking for a VAT rebate, but I for one would rather see any such rebate applied to something where lots more folks than campers and tourers benefit. More food items for example……..

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2022 #265

    Most places we stay and hook up, we can trip back on. I was thinking more around educating the serial tripper of the family😁

  • mickysf
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    edited December 2022 #266

    I do hope that first come ethos remains but it’s been slowly eroded over recent years in various aspects of the club. At least we can still choose which pitch of booked type we want on arrival from all that are free from units and there are no limitations on the minimum length of stay, yet. Believe me, we have had dissent, some vociferous from ‘both’ sides regarding perceived inequalities over the years of CT. Nothing suggests to me it will never happen again. I hope not mind!

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2022 #267

    I can't see how it can be justified either. Basically we all had a freeby when they previously reduced VAT. I don't suppose many of us went camping because we got a few quid back from a VAT saving which just happen to coincide with a massive demand for campsites that had probably not been seen before. I appreciate that VAT is often a tool used by Government to create demand in the economy but that should be across the economy not parts of it. Families who are struggling to make ends meet are not going to be impressed in the knowledge that a few well off campers are getting help with their campsite fees?

    David

  • mickysf
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    edited December 2022 #268

    Thing is David, and I am at pains trying not to make this comment political but they (the government) will if it helps them and their cronies. They don’t always have all of us, or even the majority of us, in their interests.

  • GEandGJE
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    edited December 2022 #269

    So a sizeable investment by the club to install metering which will reduce pitch prices by less than a pound a day. So back to the question in my OP would that be a sensible investment of the clubs money.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2022 #270

    It’s possibly as good an idea as buying an area of land in Bristol, without planning permission.

    Only the Club will decide🤷‍♀️

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