*New* towing calculations
Hi, I'm new to this site.
I currently have a Renault Kadjar 1.6 Diesel. 130bhp.
It has a tow bar.
It's a 2016 model, well looked after.
We are currently in a climate of uncertainty ref cost of living etc
Also, the uncertainty of what car to own especially for towing.
Nobody knows the future. Combustion engines will no longer be manufactured in UK from 2030.
So what will ownership of petrol/Diesel be like nearer that date and post that date? Higher fuel prices and taxes to get us to go electric?
My wish is to eventually buy a new or very newish 4 berth caravan to tour Europe.
I'm indecisive of what tow car I should have because of uncertainty of what I've stated above.
I love the Peugeot 2008 GT petrol 2022 model. 133bhp.
I also love the VW T6 Kombi 150bhp which is ideally what I want. This would cost me around late 20 to 30k for late 2016 model. But this is Diesel. What will long term reassurances be?
The caravan I like is Elddis 554 with island bed. New? £23k?
My overall question is, if the Peugeot can't tow above caravan then it's not worth buying it. Will my Renault tow the above caravan?
What site can give me the easiest of calculations? Much appreciated.
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You can work it out yourself.
Firstly, the all up weight of the caravan (MTPLM) must be within the manufacturers stipulated max towing weight of the car and the MTPLM of the van plus the plated gross weight of the car must not exceed the Gross Train Weight (GTW) shown on the car's weight plate. Adhere to those two points and you will remain legal.
Secondly, many people, including this club, recommend that the MTPLM of the caravan does not exceed 85% of the car's kerb weight to provide safe and stable towing.
Thirdly, you need to establish the max down weight on the rear of the car and ensure it is adequate for the nose weight of the caravan.
There is a lot of info in the Advice & Training tab at the head of the page.
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In addition to Tinwheelers comments I would also check a website called towcar.info as a rough guide to towing capacity/capabilities.
I have taken the liberty of entering the 2008 auto 130 and an elddis avanti 554 and its not a safe match as the avanti 554 (lightest version) is heavier than the 2008.
The kadjar is a better match - its worthbhaving a look at the website..its free and lots of variables to play with.
The cost of running diesels post 2030 will/may be astronomical but still probably far less outlay than buying an EV capable of towing. Are EVs getting cheaper - no!
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Hi George (Smiley), Unless that, potentially, £53k is burning a hole in your pocket and you are happy with the Kadjar, perhaps a van that suits you current car?
Due to the “uncertainty” that you mentioned we have just bought a second car to take the mileage hit and extend the useable life off our current tow car.
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my own advice would be to stop taking notice of journalists!All this electric vehicle rubbish is pie in the sky!Electric vehicles will never replace a vehicle that is running on an internal combustion engine whatever fuel is used!Maybe one day people will wake up to the fact that electric cars are heavier and therefor use more tyre rubber,batteries have a finite life and will need "recycling" or buried to contaminate the ground.
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Fields of solar? Trouble is, were can't eat electricity.
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Fields Of Solar-is that a new Sting record?!!
As an aside, I have recently visited a number of solar farms and all the staff that I worked with were quite clear about the reason people invested in solar farms-it was to make money, not because they had “green” aspirations.
They speculated that now the return has diminished, so will the levels of investment, especially as they are currently often unable to profit from improved panel performance due to National Grid restrictions.
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So much prejudice and disinformation in one post! Amazing!
My EV has fully replaced my ICE car. Point one disproven.
My EV has over 20K miles on the 1st set of tyres, and is still about 30% tread left. Thats about 2K more miles than my ICE got (18K out of last set). Point 2 disproven.
"Recycling" or more generally recycling (without the quotes) is entirely possible and already undertaken. The alternative - burn fuel and contaminate the atmosphere.
Otherwise, your point is valid.
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There is already sufficient generation to cover charging electric vehicles. Perhaps you are confusing the possible lack of power at peak times (caused by cooking, kettles, heating, showers and so on) with the the use of cheap spare overnight capacity?
Take a look at the national grids own web site here on EV myth busting.
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ChocT,
Your defense of the BEV is admirable and real world experience is geat feedback.
With regard to there being sufficient generation, i was thinking of the future unknown state not the current situation. I will indeed check out the link you provided.
cheers for now
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I am sure that EV's will replace ICE vehicles eventually . By using a combination of battery and Hydrogen . Hydrogen power cell to charge the battery ,or to run the car cruising .That combination will effectively solve the problem of refueling. The beauty of the EV is that you can instant torque like a steam engine ,unlike an ICE which needs a gearbox to overcome that problem .ICE driver for many years yet .
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