A practical electric motorhome is not far away
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Brue, completely agree EV technology is moving on a pace, but it’s not a great leap forward, just a rework of old technology albeit vastly improved, It’s still dogged with the same old problems e.g. charging, range, battery size & weight, manufacturing & disposal environmental issues, high cost etc. I think it’s just a temporary phase we’re passing through, not a new future.
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"A rework of old technology"!! Its like comparing a fly-by-wire Airbus with a Sopwith Camel. Not just the Lithium batteries but solid state electronics including unijunction transistors, synchronous reluctance motors etc.
Life of modern Lithium batteries for EVs is several hundred miles - enough for most I should think.
In a sense this is old news. UPS announced some time ago that they were planning 10,000 electric delivery vehicles in USA and Europe. Others have followed suit.Chargind infrastructure and initial cost is still the biggest issue.
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Your comparison makes my point. Both aircraft, both environmentally bad, both subject to the vagaries of weather, both cramped and uncomfortable, both expensive to build and maintain, both require ground and air support etc. Yes, the Airbus is packed with more technology, but at the end of the day it’s just a plane with all the pros & cons that come with that transport mode. That includes falling out of the sky like the Boeing 737 when you exchange the pilot for software and bits of wire. Nothing fundamental has changed, in fact aviation has gone backwards in many ways - remember Concorde? Like EVs it was fundamentally flawed and not the magic solution we had all been promised.
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Ah, the last of the Luddites. I thought they had all died out with the textile industry.
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Thanks for your intelligent response, tells me all I need to know. You’ll see my earlier comments were about the future of energy based on developments in particle physics, that’s real Luddite eh?🙄
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It is us "ludites" that with the fast disappearing real engineers. are as in the past still trying to rein in the blue sky thinkers who with past results of their thinking ,has cost many of us millions with little or mostly cost all of us pots of money for no real enhancements
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I’m glad you finally admit to being a Luddite, JV. Where would we be without you?🤣🤣🤣
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+1, anyone who shows even a passing interest in the evolution of the battery-no longer just lithium-ion we are up to lithium-sulphur, sodium-ion, Tesla’s 4680 cells & more. Anyone who casts this aside is nothing less than a Luddite for sure. We won’t see all of this as part of everyday life but it will arrive. Think of life pre 1980’s & now a mere 40yrs later-tech is faster now than it ever was.
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Read the thread properly, get your dictionary out, look up ‘Luddite’ then explain why that term is appropriate here. Or are you just stirring things like usual?
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I don’t need a dictionary I’ve dealt with Luddites all my life & I recognise quite a few on CT, I’ve followed the thread closely & enjoyed it in the main. I don’t play around the edges I research before I form an opinion. Anyone can write down a few words they’ve seen like-‘new physics with the muon G2 experiments which is a new phase of matter’😊
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PS-you & your wingman take it in turns to trot that line out. Last time it was him backing you up with the same line, online Bestys, sweet👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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Have you ever heard the advice.. it’s better to stay quiet and let people think you’re a fool than post something silly and confirm it?
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Yes I have but don’t be too hard on yourself I have seen a couple of your posts I found quite interesting over the years👍🏻😊, you are most welcome.
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The difference is that the emperor's new clothes didn't exist while EVs are very much with us. Betamax was beaten by a superior system and I don't see one yet.
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I hate to be picky TW, I usually agree with your reasoned comments, but that depends on how you define "superior".
Betamax was a better quality machine, gave a better quality recording and superior sound. The snag was the machines were more expensive and they had a shorter recording time and, whilst Sony hesitated to allow other manufacturers to use its technology, JVC licenced VHS to any interested party.
As you might guess, I bought Betamax! Doh!
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We also had a Betamax,and agree it was far superior to the VHS format
VHS was about the beginning of todays modern society of we must have the latest gadget whether it is as good or not as what luddites had
It is now it seems ,that when on mobile phone contracts ""I get a new phone every ??with my contract?" When we say but why not keep your current phone and pay less per month? "but the new one can do this or that? and then the same people complain about how much this or that costs now
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Hard luck!
In a similar way we now have a choice of full EV, PHEV, hybrid or mild hybrid. One or more may drop by the wayside but others will perpetuate and 'superior' will be largely a personal view. They are here, though, and not an illusion like the emperor's new clothes😀.
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Best talk to Chocolate Trees about that. He seems to manage just fine.
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Good post, even with our very old PVC we have only visited a fuel station twice since having it and that was just to top up when diesel was in short supply., and wanted to ensure we had enough for our next tour from Friday to New Forest, IOW. ,,New Forest, Dorset,,,Devon; Wiltshire and home end of June with loaded trailer
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I don’t see that matters, especially the company car reference. It works for him so he’s proved the feasibility but we know you’re anti, JV.
However, this thread is really about electric MHs which, I think we all agree, aren’t quite with us yet.
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I can't find that statement in the link I gave JVB. Generally most of us take a few pit stops on longer journeys whatever type of vehicle we own.
But I'm not being drawn into a "what if" session on here. We're nearly six years into EV ownership and the drive is far superior to our diesel M/H. Quiet, non-polluting, cheap to run and no tax, what's not to like.
And before you mention tax, obviously in the future we will all have to pay something but at present it's a great incentive to think about.
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I can assure you it is on their website as I have read it and a pit stop for us is usually just to stretch my legs at about the recommended. two hours driving and not necessari at any type of refueling stations
As my Daughter has said "Dad you now do not have to save for a rainy day any more as it is now here, and if you do not spend it I sure will"
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