Disposal of waste water

bryal
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edited April 2022 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

During our last recent couple of breaks away, I have noticed that people are not disposing of their waste water correctly. Instead of going to the site points, they are walking up and down behind caravans, the side of their units just letting it pour out. Surely when the warm weather comes, things will begin to smell and cause rats.

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  • JVB66
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    edited April 2022 #2

    Are you sure it is waste water and not fresh out of their aqua roll, I have not  noted waste being emptied, like  that with caravans ,it is quite often seen with motorcaravans leaving sites with their waste tank valve open ,especially if it saves queuing at the M//C point

  • Wherenext
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    edited April 2022 #3

    Quite a few CLs allow you to dispose of grey waste water in the hedges.

    I've not noticed any bad smells coming from these. Despite spending quite a lot of time on CLs I've yet to see a rat although it is almost certain that they were in the near vacinity.

    I'd be more worried about food waste around caravans/Mhs than waste water.

  • bryal
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    edited April 2022 #4

    Absolutely certain WASTE WATER, long thinner grey containers not large and round, I don't want to sound rude but I know the difference 

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2022 #5

    With only five LVs the waste disposal method some allow ,would be  very different on popular sites with multiple use of the same pitches ,if waste water was disposed of in that manner and then if it was allowed on some sites and not others ?

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2022 #6

    As you can see we have been members a few years 3yrs since that date , I can honestly say I have never seen what you have? some "ralliers?" May run their waste into the hedges behind them? what sites have you noticed it?

    I think if I had noticed what you have seen I would have had a word with the person doing it and or the site staff

  • bryal
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    edited April 2022 #7

    We have not used CL's, always club sites, I have seen it on 3 separate pitches in Bridlington and 2 units in Blackpool.  In Bridlington one unit must have filled their aqua roll over 15 times whilst there and didn't dispose of correctly once 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2022 #8

    Whether club sites or CLs could be the key. It is quite normal on CLs for many site owners to request you dispose of waste water in hedges or around shrubs. After all, it’s what we're encouraged to do in times of drought.

    On club sites, though, it is not allowed and something that could be brought to the attention of the wardens.

  • Wherenext
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    edited April 2022 #9

    If a CL owner allows waste water to be disposed of in this manner, that is by run off into hedge then all  CL users dispose in this way, so the run off area would be in constant use, yet as I've said I've never noticed any bad smells from that source. 

    It is extremely doubtful that a CAMC site pitch would have the same exposure to waste water. I can see it happening on occasions, same as some dog owners won't pick up, but the incidents would surely be varied between pitches and sites and wouldn't attract the same density of spoilage.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2022 #10

    Wrong obviously but they may be newcomers to club sites, did you mention it to the wardens?

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2022 #11

    That is some curtain twitching if noting how many times water was collectedsurprised 

  • bryal
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    edited April 2022 #12

    I did speak to the person in Bridlington and he said it was good for the grass, and one of the wardens said as long as it was water he wasn't bothered 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2022 #13

    There you go then. If the wardens allow it, so be it.

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2022 #14

    The site staff member must have been A first year assistant to not realise that waste water is very rarely "just water"

  • JollyKernow
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    edited April 2022 #16

     I'm on site for 21 days at a time and I don't miss a thing dave.

    JK

  • SeasideBill
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    edited April 2022 #17

    I don’t doubt it’s a growing problem either furtive nighttime activity or the more brazen who habitually open the drain valve in broad daylight when driving off the site. I guess in the case of the former, if a few do it there’s probably not much impact, but multiply that by thousands of campers on a regular basis and it becomes a problem. In the case of the latter, same applies with the added problem that perception by non-campers witnessing such behaviour is not good and we all get tarred with the same brush.

  • davetommo
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    edited April 2022 #18

    You are not on holiday. In fact you are the sherif. Which site are you then I know to keep away for fear of being caught doing wrong.

  • JollyKernow
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    edited April 2022 #19

    I was up the ladder on the back of the rv and on the roof today, does that make me the high sheriff?yell

    JK

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2022 #20

    Many members seem to take that  attitude these days, to the detriment of others on sitesurprised

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  • davetommo
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    edited April 2022 #22

    Sounds like a good vantage point 

  • peedee
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    edited April 2022 #23

    I have seen motorhomes dripping waste/water as they leave site but nine times out of ten I think they have dumped the bulk of it at the waste point but left the tap open as they drive away. It is the residue you see dripping out which won't come out without the motion of the van. The tap should really have been closed after dumping the bulk of water/waste.

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  • GTP
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    edited April 2022 #25

    Possibly.....but very true...A MH drove past our pitch recently.( well over the 5MPH I might add) with his waste outlet open... 

    Aside..overheard a conversation amongst a group of MH owners waiting at the MHSP (same site) saying there are not enough MHSP to serve the increasing numbers of MH owners/users....a couple mentioned they were booking serviced pitches in future..

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2022 #26

    Caravans can also drip water when they first leave the pitch but unless they are very close to the exit there would not be a puddle of waste water while they fiddle to find card for exit barrier to openwink

  • peedee
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    edited April 2022 #27

    Of course some MHers empty their fresh tanks as they depart. We don't, but I can imagine that about 200 litres would form quite an impressive streak. 🤣.

    I don't dump fresh water either escept a home but I've seen it dumped on a pitch before but never seen anything gushing forth as motorhomes drive away. As you say even the smallest vans could leave quite a puddle

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  • LLM
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    edited April 2022 #28

    The only times we dump fresh water are as you say at home or if leaving a site where we have picked up unpleasant and / or very hard water.   

  • richardandros
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    edited April 2022 #29

    Just bear in mind that on the east coast, we haven’t seen any rain to speak of - for weeks. That may have something to do with it. That said, I’m due to take our awning down today, so that might change things🌧

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2022 #30

    The problem of motor caravans dumping waste water ,by driving of sites with their waste valve open ,is hilighted, we have noticed on several sites a notice asking those who do to not do it

    And as stated it is actually illegal to travel with as said an unsafe load that can lead to a prosecution 

    The cases of caravaners letting waste overflow onto pitches has been going on for years and as highlighted by JK

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2022 #31

    How is the waste drain fitment on your new MH, JV. Up to standard?🤣🤣🤣