Talking in awnings
can i please remind people on club sites, that if there having a conversation in their awning after nine o clock that sound travels, i have returned from brecon club site where members are asked to keep noise down bettween 10pm-7am yet some members think its ok to play music and talk in their awning into midnight, i could hear the thump of the music and talking over my tv past 11pm, i felt sorry for those with young children nearby, i thought this would be a one night only but no the next night it started again luckly they switched it off about 9pm, i didn't want to bother the warden but we like to retire about 10pm and rise early, i was thinking of tripping out their bollard, its made me think that club sites are no longer for me.
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Having a polite word with your neighbours would have been a friendly way of dealing with the situation. It didn’t need the warden's intervention in the first instance.
Tripping their bollard, indeed! I trust you were joking.😫
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its no use going around to have a friendly word, because if alcohol has been consumed in the awning , then the words can get heated, i've seen many a argument where alcohol causes people to behave anti-social,
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emilysdad, i rise about 7-7.30 i never drag a water barrel, around i dont slam doors, i am mindful of the people around wanting a lie in, i turn off my motorhome radio as i enter sites because i know the sound goes through the doors,
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Mmm, so much easier to disturb the warden late in the evening.
You assume things would have turned to unpleasantness but the chances are the offenders didn’t even realise they were disturbing you and would have reacted amiably to a friendly approach. If not, you would have been justified in talking to the warden the following day.
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Hi Screen name friend, Things are different if you do decide to move away from Club sites. I was once listening to music outdoors on a summer night - just soft, sexy music - when the Dutch guy next door said “I like that, Will you play it again and I’ll give you a beer”. He came round with a couple of cans of Amstel, but luckily I had a stock of Peroni to follow on.
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And it doesn't only happen in club sites. I was verbally assaulted by the husband of a CL owner who was the worse the wear for drink when I politely requested a bit of peace and quiet, from a group sat in an awning, after midnight on one site!!😲
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Evening
I purposely haven't replied to anyone specifically as I'll reply generally. On arrival at site when booking in, members are given a welcome letter which clearly explains a few things to be aware of. It mentions the "quiet time" in order to have respect for fellow campers. I know people don't often read supplied information but on my site it's encouraged.
So, the issue of what's basically someone's perception of a noisy neighbour. It's mentioned above that if you find your peace is disturbed that you try and have a chat with the people concerned, then there's the "there's no point when people have had a drink". There's also "that's what the warden's for" comments. If you think people are drunk and would respond accordingly, why would you think I would put myself at risk of harm anymore than you would? I can dial 999 just the same as anyone. In my 12 years with the club I've only had 1 instance where I've been called out to a disturbance of that magnitude. I've had many, unfortunately, call outs that involve the defib and the use of an ambulance ( that's what we're paid for out of hours).
I agree that an element of noise from an awning in the late hours is unsociable, but in my experience, 99% of the time the people involved were unaware how their sound travelled and with a polite word the next day they were mostly embarrassed that they had upset anyone and it was never repeated. By all means ask us if you feel you can't approach anyone but personally if I was camping on site and had a perceived issue with unsocial behaviour and I thought it involved people that had consumed alcohol and it would have a negative effect on any outcome, I would have a chat with them the next morning about it. Whatever happened to our hobby when we can't talk to eachother?
JK
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depends how you ask or tell them to be a little quieter. Years back, we were on a site (hired static) and a group of lads were chatting around their fire in the next field till very late. I walked up and said ''Lads ... can you just keep it down a little?'' They'd just got a bit carried away & immediately apologised and were then some what quieter. 👍
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To be fair this is not a modern phenomenon, I’ve been ‘camping’ for more than sixty years and on the very odd occasions over that period probably counted these instances on one hand but when it happens it can be annoying and rememberable. Have to say that as the drinks flow folk can loose the ability to recognise that sound travels. In my experience a friendly, light hearted approach can generally help address the issue without promoting anger. It’s how you go about it I guess. Not the site or wardens fault, just wrong neighbours at that wrong time.
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I am surprised they carried on if that’s a machine gun tower in the background!
As said we all make sounds most if the time but see it as noise when it’s affecting us in a “negative” way.
We always try to minimise the sounds we make, especially early or late in the day, but think the OP is likely to have this noise” on any type of site.
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It could have been worse ... on a site years ago, a bloke in a neighbouring caravan got his guitar out one afternoon to sing praise to the Lord.... I thought of many things I'd have like to have done with his guitar .... playing it wasn't on the list. 🤐
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A few bars from 'Ride of the Valkyries' at full throttle from a ghetto blaster might have got the point across. Fight fire with fire.
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Peoples body clocks are different and I suspect many would think that 10.00pm is a bit early to be going to bed especially if you are enjoying a drink with friends? I would think the best approach would be to have a word in the morning rather than whilst the noise was going on. Perhaps introduce a bit humor and irony into the conversation by saying something like "you were obviously have a good night, last night" I think in the cold light of day most decent people would realise by such a comment that perhaps they were too loud and probably apologise. Confrontation breeds confrontation where as attempts at diplomacy might get a better outcome. As you are a motorhomer perhaps you could consider moving to a quieter part of the site?
David
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Perhaps, as we are now moving rapidly to pan-network arrival and departure times, we should also be introducing a centrally decreed common period of silence through the night.
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I have no objection whatever to people staying up all night if they so choose, and I absolutely have no objection to them having drinks with friends, but this opening comment completely misses the point. It is surely a matter of respect that people keep the noise down after 10pm - whatever time they like to go to bed. You seem to be saying that if our neighbours go to bed at midnight, whilst we like to be tucked up by 11pm, we ought to be prepared to accept the noise from awnings or al-fresco gatherings that might keep us awake. In any event, no one is saying that everyone should go to bed at 10pm. The notion is plainly ridiculous.
As for your so called humorous or ironic comment, I find this much more like sarcasm than irony or humour. Such a comment would be water off a duck's back to people who think it's OK to have noisy al-fresco or in-awning get togethers late at night. They'd just laugh, say, yes we did actually, not get it at all, and probably do exactly the same again the next night.
I absolutely do not buy this regularly seen comment that the perpetrators of these noisy gatherings do not realise that they are disturbing neighbours. The reality is they don't give a damn and there was plenty of evidence of this on a thread that came up a few months ago - I think nelliethehooker was the OP - when several posters thought the excessive noise that had disturbed nellie (if it was nellie, I think it was, but, anyway, that isn't the point) was entirely acceptable and that it was nellie who was at fault. There was one post in particular, from a relative regular here, who was particularly unkind and who took the view that such goings on were normal and acceptable.
It is easy enough for people to retire into their van when it gets late to continue their socialising.
The final insult in this post is to suggest that, as a motorhomer, one should move to a quieter part of the site. I find that comment utterly outrageous. That the victim of late night noise should have to resolve it by moving pitch! Unbelievable. If that is the best answer to this increasing problem then I totally despair. Aside from from the fact that you would be accepting that the noise is as normal and unavoidable as, say, traffic or aircraft, for example, how would you know that you were not jumping from the frying pan into the fire and moving adjacent to more noisy neighbours!
This kind of late night noise is one of the main reasons why I do much more of my trips in the off-season months these days. I am in total sympathy and empathy with the OP.
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As written in the site rules and in the "welcome to your Club Canpsite" leaflet
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"we want everyone to have a great stay with us, and rest is an important part of recharging our batteries So we have 'Quiet Time,' in campsite's between 10pm until 7am to make sure everyone enjoys a restful. night to be ready for the next morning fir a day of adventures or further relaxing",
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I quoted that upthread jvb. It's also in the welcome letter given out with the site map which we encourage people to read. Doesn't always work though, I've watched some folks walk out of reception and deposit all the given information straight in the bin.
JK
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That has always been the case and then they come into reception and ask for information that was on the handouts they were given on booking In ,,or did not receive any as they had not come back to reception and advised what pitch they were on when they find the barriers will not open for them
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When the clubs WiFi gets to be reliable on sites I may get all the info that is posted
FM was fine
Seacroft. almost non existence (and they have fibre and is supposed to be a silver site
Great Yarmouth is only a hotspot. and that was very unreliable
Back at home now
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I find that when I take my hearing aids out it all goes quiet.
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I thought you were home? It’s only 3 pages to read👍🏻
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well it seems that a lot on here think theres nothing wrong with playing music in their awning into the night, whilst talking loudly, im not against playing music within reason but i was a distance away and i could here word for word what was said and the loud thump of the bass over the tv i was watching, yes i could have moved pitch but as it was holiday week there were none available to move to, i have been caravaning/motorhoming since the 70s and have noticed caravans getting longer and awnings getting bigger and now people are putting sofas in the awnings and using them like a lounge, hence the noise travelling park next to a tent and see what i mean, you can here the occupants talking. i remember when younger when going to work early dont slam car doors so neighbours aren't disturbed now people slam doors radio on loud and dont care.
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