No bins on Club Site
Has anyone else experienced club sites not having bins out for you to use & asking you to take all your waste to the main bins in the area the wardens usually put it? This is in Wales if that helps? I do t this can be blamed on covid anymore, so don’t understand why this is happening? Can anyone shed any light on this?
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Morning
I believe there are one or two sites that have a central waste point, don't know why. Did you enquire with the site staff with your question? It could be something simple like broken down machinery. I did a couple of weeks at a site in East Anglia where we had to do the same because the new tractor had a fault that lasted two weeks. No one complained when it was explained.
JK
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Yes. Warwick Racecourse, which is an AS site. We considered it good exercise and a chance for fresh air. Central bins.
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Even on large sites, say with 150+ pitches, there is usually just two waste bin points as far as I can recall. If they change it to just one and provided there are enough bins and emptied regularly it is not really a problem is it?
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Several club sites have reduced bins and removed them from the service points. For instance, Malvern removed then and replaced with some by the 2 facility blocks which wasn't a problem but I have encountered sites where the only bins were quite a hike from some of the pitches which isn't great for those less able. The big heavy lidded bins are a real struggle for some folk to use too and a bit more thought wouldn't go amiss.
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Bolton Abbey only has 55 pitches, but three service points. Marazion has 60 pitches and four service points. The Club may be over providing rubbish bins I think……. Every morning is one of brrr, brrr, rattle rattle, crash crash as bins are emptied. With a tractor and trailer of course.
There was one Site we used, where staff used a hand cart, but I can’t recall at the moment where it was…..🤔
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It's very possible for one person to be less able and the partner, if there is one, to be shortish or not very strong.
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I think there are two points here, one is having one central place for bins, which I think is fine.
The other is how easy the bins, waste crates or whatever , is to use. And here I think they should be easy to use and at an appropriate height.
Perhaps a collect your rubbish service on demand could be available by the wardens for an extra cost
Perhaps a button on the new metering bollards?
(That was a joke - both of them)
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On small sites, perhaps, one central place for bins is acceptable, but I disagree with those who claim such a practice is positive - for our health and efficiency and the environment. This is especially so if it leads to people collecting their own waste in bags, hung on the back of their outfit, as an interim measure to save frequent trips to the central bins. I remember one contributor promoting this practice last time this subject came up. That seems to me to be liable to cause unpleasantness all round.
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"....u have yet to go on a site to find there is not an ordinary bin also"
JVB, you are not often right but you're wrong again.
You have no idea what sites I've visited and my point was perfectly clear.
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I suppose it depends on how much waste, how many bottles you generate. We have a lidded bin inside our MH, integral to door. We struggle to fill it once a day, so luckily can manage at least a once a day stroll, usually with the dog in tow. Is a once a day visit to a central bin really an issue?
I can understand the big bins being a struggle, but there are ones with slots for bottles, holes for bags, and this could help somewhat. Needs to be dealt with as part of contract.On some Club Sites, we are never sure if recycling is happening, as all the bins are the same, with perhaps a crate for bottles, usually overflowing. Ferry Meadows a case in point, last time we visited in March.🤷♀️ (Please don’t tell me the staff have to sort through it😱)
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central waste points tend to be near the main entrance for ease of collection by the bin waggons, so just take it with you when you leave site. As for ease of use of the larger bin, there are plenty of places that have these bins in the street for general use .... eg Edinburgh and places abroad - they all seem to manage. I'm sure those who are taller & can manage to use the bins will help those vertically challenged if needed.
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Far be for me to mention "abroad" but a single collection point is almost the norm in Europe. In Germany some of the Recycling points are quite impressive with a large range of options for what goes where!
I suppose we get used to the status quo and for years the Club have provided bins close to pitches. There are so many different regimes around the country for collecting waste its probably difficult to have one size fits all. Whilst it is convenient to walk to the nearest service point I don't think it would bother me if rubbish had to be positioned in one central point. I have noticed on some sites that big bins are appearing near to the toilet blocks, perhaps this is a half way house? I won't regret the passing of the early morning rubbish collection by the site tractor!!!
When we were at Ferry Meadows last week there was no clear indication on what bins to use for recycling. Of the six bins three had black bags and the other three have clear bags so I assume the clear bags were for recycling as that is how it is at home.
David
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Even when bins are clearly marked, there seems to be some who just dump everything in one bin.
We are both short of stature, and OH cannot reach above shoulder height with her right arm, so the big bins can be a bit of a challenge. They are common abroad, and on many UK sites, but not having used a Club site since last August, we have not seen them on Club sites.
When the heavy lid has to be lifted, that can be a problem, OH usually lifts it with her good arm and throws the bag in with her dodgy arm, which is usually successful.
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Why does any site need more than one set of bins or recycling area. Surely common sense would have it near reception so when you go out you can drop it off.
On a similar note, what is the preoccupation with needing a home dustbin size waste bin in the awning or next to the van, you know, the ones that take the big plastic dustbin sacks.
Colin
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I am glad it wasn’t just me that found FM less than clear. I didn’t find myself wanting to lift all the lids to search the interiors on our last visit, but it begs the question how hard is it to simply mark up each bin lid🙄
There you go, HQ information collators, you said….we did. Put some clear ruddy labels on the bins at FM👍
Some kind person could report this post, then hope it gets actioned🙏
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Afternoon
The site with a handcart is Marazion TTDA. I gave it to the previous site staff. I used to drag the beach gear with it when we were at Godrevy
JK
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Afternoon
The company the club use to collect their waste provide more than adequate signage free of charge for all types of waste so there's no reason at all it shouldn't be in place. Saying that though, I've put all new signage out this season, it's quite clear what to put where with pretty pictures and large lettering but I still spend a lot of time trying to sort stuff. If the recycling is contaminated with anything that shouldn't be in it it gets rejected and goes to landfill. Is there anywhere in the country where dog pooh is recycling? That really does my nut
JK
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On the sites we've visited with bin collection areas these are often fenced off from general view but are always near the entrance or exit for bin lorries to use and we've often seen requests not to use the bins overnight to prevent noise nuisance etc.
Some areas operate sort on site and others sort at depots.
Bins are usually marked according to contents unless this isn't needed but glass is always separate.
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This bone of contention has a multitude of answers.
On most sites Dustbins have been removed due to H&S concerns over the weight of the bags. Basically, if you don't know the weight then you should not lift it.
Site staff have to lift the bags into the trailer then into a eurobin or skip which is shoulder height. This is a black bag not a carrier bag, so they are very heavy sometimes.
Site staff have experienced sharps in the bags as well.
The club are also saving on the expenditure of the 1000's of black and white bags used daily/weekly on the sites.
It also encourages people to take the rubbish home.
The above therefore makes it a no brainer for sites to centralise bins.
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I've reported your post as requested TDA and also mentioned DK's on the same subject at Ferry Meadows. I realise the bins might be the type that are sorted at a depot but this could also be indicated to users. Either way I agree that labelling is needed.
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