E Movis Tag
Morning Everyone,
Happy New Year !
This may have already been covered previously but I cant see a thread, so here goes.
We're hoping to drive to the south of France this year, and are more or less convinced on the merits of a toll tag (E-Movis in particular).
GIven that we have one of those reflective (A-Thermic) ? windscreens on our 2018 Ducato, and e-movis recommend fitment to the "dotted/shaded" area, (which on our van is only around 5-10mm wide), will the tag still work when affixed to the large solid black area around the rear view mirror ?.
Any help or feedback on practical experience appreciated.
Thanks all !
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My first motorhome had a cab overhang which made it difficult to get line of sight if fitted in the recommended area of the windscreen. What I did was to fix at windscreen wiper level (which after all is still probably higher than the average car?) and it worked fine.
David
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If your MH is as in your Avatar with just that small overhang, ours works fine in the dotted area. However, we don’t put it fully onto the clip ( never fallen off yet) so it could be easily taken off and waved out the window if required. If pushed fully on, it is almost impossible to get off.
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It’s on a dotted area about level with the middle / bottom of the mirror. So about 12 cm or so below the top of the screen. Ours is stored in a compound, so I can’t check, however I don’t recall a Matt black section. Probably best for the passenger to try holding it in position for the first toll and see if it works, before sticking on the clip. Or order a second clip with the tag.
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Place the tag by hand somewhere on the windscreen as you approach the barrier. When you find a place where it works stick it there.
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Hi Matt, We had two TAGs, a Tamar Bridge and Sanef/emovis which we removed when we changed cars last June.
As AD we now keep the Tamar TAG handy and just hold against the screen when we approach the barrier and I see no reason to change this when we do get to venture into France again for the emovis TAG.
As for the TAG itself, its something that, for a bit of money, saves a lot of faff and that has become more useful with the reduction in staffed toll booths.
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Matt
No its on an area of clear glass. I am not altogether sure why they say put it in the dotted area unless its a security thing so it can't be seen by others or obstruct the sweep of the wiper blades?
David
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Thanks David.
I understand that It needs to go in the "Shaded/Dotted" area because the "Van" has a reflective coating on the windscreen (that cuts down UV I believe). The signal from the tag to the booth (Or visa versa) is blocked by this coating and the barrier wont lift. If the tag goes into the shaded area there's no coating in these areas and the system works.
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Afternoon Guys,
Thanks everyone for your suggestions so far.
To help clarify, I've now managed to get a pic of the solid black area around the mirror if anyone has any experience of this ?
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Matt, try it there by hand and see. If it works stick it on. Till then it can go in the glove box or the door pocket.
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Matt, we travelled through France using the Tag middle of December here in Spain just now. Have to say it is money well spent as worked a treat for us, we have the same black area as you and stuck it to the left of this in clear glass.
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The area that is 'dotted' or complete black is where the Solar Attenuating windscreen has a clear area, and meant for 'Tags', like so on mine.
Open in a new Tab for a more defined piccy.
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On my last MH, an Autocruise Gleneagle, I stuck the tag clip on the forward facing surface of the rearview mirror as the concertina blinds would have caught on the clip if it was stuck to the windscreen. Toll barriers opened reliably using that technique.
In my current MH, a Dethleffs Advantage A Class, we had trouble getting the tag far enough forward to be read at the barrier, as the screen is nearly a metre in front of the passengers sitting position. To solve that problem, I have mounted the tag on a selfie stick and it now works a treat.
It's just a case of experimenting where is best to position the tag and then fix the clip once you know where it works.
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I've thought about one of these, I don't want to sound negative, but what are the real advantages of Toll road and Tag system. I know when we travelled peak season they meant we could get somewhere a bit quicker, but what are the real cost implications. I note you have a registration or is it yearly fee and then a set admin fee per month of use. Add to this high toll costs and it sees to add up. I know on the route we take to the Dordogne from Calais we use the Toll across towards Rouen and that's it. At the last check this route saved us about Euro 60 each way and took about 1/2hr longer. We also had lots of rest stops and cheap fuel on the way. Towing was still possible at 55/60mph for the majority of the time
Is the Toll road and E Movis Tag aimed at the we must get there quickly traveller?
Colin
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We went for the Emovis version, which isn’t the cheapest. However we choose it, because it is billed in this country using direct debit from our bank account. Rather than abroad, from a credit card. There are easy contacts if you get any unexpected charges. The initial cost was I think €20, but that is refundable when you return it. I recently returned mine and requested a new one, as they said the battery was time expired. I was charged another €20 but credited €20 for the old one that I returned. On top of that there is an annual fee of 6 or 7 euros. Then in any month it gets used €5 plus your toll charges. Personally I think it is worth every cent. It is so much easier than using a credit card, or even worse trying to feed cash into those machines, as there are so few personed booths these days. You can keep a check on your spent on your online account. Overall on the cost of a holiday, if it spans 2 months, the total cost ( except for the tolls) would be €16. Hardly worth considering, even if you don’t use a lot of toll roads.
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You do get there quicker but it's far easier & more fuel efficient to tow on motorways/autoroutes than using other roads when towing, stop start driving when towing batters my car's mpg. Using an electronic tag also means less hassle finding credit cards/cash for the booth ... you don't actually stop as you go through them and they allow you to use the nearside wider lanes that the HGVs use.
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I am one that usually doesn't have a fixed destination, but tour. Our last France trip was across to Annecy, down to the south taking in Montpellier, heading west and through Toulouse, Bordeaux and up the west coast to Calais, taking in about 14 sites staying some for 6/7 days and others as stop overs.
No toll roads taken, and enjoyed the villages, towns and countryside without the boring repetition of driving on the motorway. More fuel used but much more pleasant, I suppose if I had limited time plus a destination (my trip was 10 weeks) then I would consider a tag.
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Purely convenience. The extra cost implications in addition to the tolls are quite small once the account is set up. If you have a motorhome it can be quite difficult for the passenger to reach the ticket machine from the cab without opening the door and possibly getting out. Many toll booths are now unstaffed so a tag makes life a lot easier. If someone is going just for a couple of weeks its worth might be questionable. If you are embarking on a long trip visiting many places as we often did we found it very useful.
David
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...I think I mis-understood ?.
