Help! Stuck in the mud!

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edited December 2021 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

Hi all,

New to motorhoming, we stored it on grass. Went to recover it today, to have a nice break in Brighton, but we are completely stuck in the mud. Wheels just keep on spinning, and we keep trying to wedge things under to no avail. RAC garage came out, couldn't help, said we probably need two tow trucks; one to tow us and one to tow our tow when it goes down in the mud!!  It is behind a building at a 90* angle to the nearest concrete. Any helpful suggestions to free it without vast expense welcome or anyone around with a tractor, (not necessarily today:)?! We are London N13.

Thank you!! 

Jim and Anne.

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  • chasncath
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    edited December 2021 #2

    Dreadful position to be in! Once this is over, buy a pair of plastic grip mats, and park with your front wheels nearest to any hardstanding.

    In the meantime, you will almost certainly have to dig behind or in front of the drive wheels to create a gentle slope. You will also need grip mats to shove under the wheels. You will have to do this even with a tow. Once you get the motorhome moving, don't stop until you reach tarmac!!

    Take heart! We were once towed out of the mud on a small French farm site by a 'Kangoo'.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited December 2021 #3

    would anyone with a big 'proper' 4x4 be able help ... 🤷‍♂️

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2021 #4

    Last person to help in these things but would a vehicle with a winch attached be able to help

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2021 #5

    Whoops!

    J&A, I think you will need a specialist vehicle recovery company. Not a garage but a recovery specialist. It won’t be cheap😟


    I see this thread is duplicated in Motorhomes. ET has made a similar suggestion.

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #6

    Unless you can jack up the front (is it front wheel drive?) and get some firm surface under the wheels , I also think a specialist recovery company is required ,l as you say it is at a 90degree angle to firm ground,

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2021 #7

    ….and the duplicate seems to have gone 🤷🏻‍♂️

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  • chasncath
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    edited December 2021 #9

    Despite advice (some from caravanners) just to pay the 'Stupid Tax' and and get heavy equipment in, it's still worthwhile getting a big shovel and start digging recovery trenches. You might even be able to get out of the mud by yourself. But STOP if you start sinking further!

    Is there clear ground in front of your motorhome, or are you having to reverse? Will a towing vehicle be able to attach a bridle to your front towing bracket?

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2021 #12

    I agree DD, either an off road Club, or contact a farmer. Both are likely to have winches. The 90 degree angle will be a challenge, and it might be painful to watch. Up here, folks just take apart a dry stone wall to build a ramp, but that has its challenges and risks. If you do decide to contact someone, they might need to know how much outfit weighs, and what sort of ground clearance you have. And a winch/tow anchor point. Good luck with it. Proper bridging boards (rigid type) will help as well.

  • marchie1053
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    edited December 2021 #13

    I have seen advice on another Forum to use plastic bread trays to produce the equivalent of the matting grips. A variation on this approach [thinking this through as I type!] is to visit a local Garden Centre to buy either the plastic moulds for making the stepping stone concrete slabs, OR the multi chamber honeycomb grid that can be filled with gravel to stop the stones 'walking' on banking and similar

    A couple of moulds, filled with a couple of bags of the cheapest stone chippings available, perhaps combined with a bag of sharp sand and some concrete aggregate to act as 'sacrificial bulk' in the existing mud to give a rudimentary base for the plastic 'formers' to rest on, just might work, and would be relatively cheap

    Steve

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2021 #14

    We use Sand Ladders as well, but you do have to be very careful, they tilt up on exit, and can rip off delicate underneath bits on low slung, longer wheelbase vehicles. We never did find our tank drain tap…….😂

  • SeasideBill
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    edited December 2021 #15

    I’ve successfully used a couple of plastic bakers trays under the drive wheels to get me out of trouble. Just cut out the sides, dig a small trench behind each drive wheel and shove them in against the tyre. Next use the Aussie trick of deflating the tyres by about 50% to increase the footprint and adhesion. Drive or reverse out very gently and keep going! Remember to inflate the tyres when finished. 

    NB don’t let anybody stand where the trays might fly out and hit them! 

  • chasncath
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    edited December 2021 #16

    What about a Spanish Windlass?

  • davetommo
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    edited December 2021 #17

    If you have Mayday breakdown cover here is what they claim they will do

    Snow, flood and mud recovery

    We don't charge any extra when it's time for specialist lifting equipment off road, even if you're stuck on site.

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  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #19

    Some caravanners have been to the dark side and then seen the light againsmile

    Just note the Ops post that the solid surface is at 90degrees to where he is stuck behind a building kiss

    And as we do not know how much space he has any advise is probably a guess as to how to helpcool

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #20

    I think he has yet to see that mayday is the one to be  in as the rac who were it seems hopeless with the predicament he is inundecided 

    Mayday use contractors for their breakdowns and would I expect send an appropriate vehicle as requiredsurprised

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2021 #21

    I’m not sure it matters what type of LV unit someone has when they offer advice.

    I based my own comments on the fact that the RAC man said 2 tow trucks would be necessary as this indicates the situation is far from simple. I think it’s probable the MH needs to turn or perhaps be dragged/lifted sideways and that’s not likely to be achieved with a spade and bread tray. There is much we don’t know for sure.

    JVB is obviously of similar opinion.

  • chasncath
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    edited December 2021 #22

    Us 'experts' need photos Jim! Take some low-res photos and post them on here. We're all rooting for you, and want to see this through. smile

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2021 #23

    Just a thought?.  Jim and Anne if you were going to stay on a site at Brighton, with the stress you have been or/are under at this time  have you advised the place you were going to stay ,

  • chasncath
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    edited December 2021 #24

    Were I asked in a similar difficulty, in my past life, to suggest a solution I would have said " Flight, could  you have this truck extracted from the mud, please?". However, my advice, as an experienced motorhomer, is judged to be pointlesscry

  • ABM
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    edited December 2021 #25

    I appreciate that you wanted to use the 'van for a weekend very soon  BUT  if there is a chance of hanging on for a while ~~  do some research on when the E & W cricket team returns from Aussie-land.

    Hi-jack all of 'em  &  drive them under your  powered wheels with a sledge-hammer or over-sized mallet then when you are out just call Council Refuse Dept to recycle them !!

  • richardandros
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    edited December 2021 #26

    I would have thought so.  A few years ago - at Christmas, I towed a very big Moho off an extremely muddy CL with my Touareg. He'd managed to bury it almost up to the axles! Engaged low ratio and diff locks and it came out easily.  

  • peedee
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    edited December 2021 #27

    Difficult to give advice without seeing the situation but I cannot see cut up breadboards being a solution! Rather than paying a high price for a specialist tow out you could consider making a roadway out of sheet material .e.g. 8 x 4ft sheet ply. Jack the vehicle up to get the first sheet sheet under the drive wheels. You may get away with just two sheets, moving the back one to the front until on firm ground.

    peedee

     
  • SeasideBill
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    edited December 2021 #28

    A ‘bakers tray’ made of heavy duty plastic acts as matting. A ‘breadboard’ is more useful for making toast. In essence it’s the same approach as your solution, but a couple of cut-down trays are easier to stow than large sheets of plywood! As stated, I and others have tried it and it can work - just a suggestion intended to be helpful.

  • peedee
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    edited December 2021 #29

    Obviously sheet ply is not portable but it does spread the weight of a vehicle over a much larger area. I have seen it used to good effect before.

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  • SteveL
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    edited December 2021 #30

    Given the price of 8 by 4 sheets of 15 MM ply. I wouldn’t think thinner would be much good. I think I would prefer to spend the money on some professional assistance.

  • peedee
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    edited December 2021 #31

    You can reuse sheet ply. laughing

    peedee