Booking ahead is unfair at some sites
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DK says. “ I am still of the view that it will come as a shock to many members who don't pay much attention to forums and social media?”
Absoltely correct. It may even reach the crescendo of huffing and puffing, and “why weren’t the Membership consulted?” heights that followed the rebranding😉
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SteveL wrote umpteen pages back "If the CAMC go down the avenue of deposits, they have to be set at a realistic rate."
Setting the rate is dependant on what the CAMC's purpose is. Is it to protect a minimum level of income or disciplinary?
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If they're silent, how can you know what the majority want?🤔
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I have been reading an article about a boat marina and how the pricing structure for the new metered EHUs is allowed to be set up ,and the add charges on top of the price of the electricity ,that need to be considered, and it will be by prepaid cards
It seems that some of the users are not happy bunnies
But many are it seems okay with it
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I am sure those of us that inhabit the world of internet forums and social media are equally in a bubble as those that pay no interest? Many people enjoy our hobby to get away from things and part of that might well be not keeping up with the news or reading magazines. Mind you anyone reading the the Club magazine of late would only get the impression the the Club is "just thinking about deposits" as one possible solution which is a lot different from being signed, sealed and delivered as the AGM suggests. I suspect most of us on here would be surprised that there was not a storm of protest when it is announced but equally of course there will be those who will applaud the change as they see possible advantages.
David
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Should I appreciate that? Seems to me there's a fair bit of bleating on here 🐑🐏
It's only to complain about booking which appears to attract quite a lot of folk to both CT and the AGM.🤷♂️
As Brue indicated, it's the financial aspect the club is mainly interested in and not the bleats, or otherwise, of the membership.
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I suspect most of us on here would be surprised that there was not a storm of protest when it is announced but equally of course there will be those who will applaud the change as they see possible advantages.
I am failing to see the advantages for members only the club getting income a year in advance and then keeping some of said income for late cancellations etc. Seems a few moaners who think 90% of bookings are cancelled at 73 hours notice are going to get what they want and think they will still be able to leave it till 2 weeks before Easter and be guaranteed a space at Chatsworth or Rowntree Park only to be disappointed as they will still be all booked up.
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Again what problems are you talking about PD? Cancellations or speculative bookings? or maybe just your problems at not getting a club site when you want?
And yes that is a problem if one can't get a site when one wants it. Like others I don't think this will make that much difference to honeypot sites and really not much difference elsewhere. There are just too many people chasing too few pitches.
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As an ex-banker you have to ask?
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Running a system with deposits will involve a lot of having to handle them, and any refunds (if allowed), auditing and accounting, preventing fraud etc. I wonder if the possible income from forfeited deposits will actually cover the costs? Could end in a no-win for anyone situation.
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I think C&MC’s raison detre is to hit the optimal cost effectiveness of running their business👍🏻
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You perhaps misunderstand. In respect of bookings, the complainants are largely newcomers to CT, not any regular few.
I'm glad you agree on the financial point. Btw, the typo made me chuckle😄
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I would’ve expected it all to be done electronically, AI is being used more & more in every aspect of our world👍🏻
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Real money, paper and coins is being used less and less nowadays, hastened by the pandemic. Reality is now a computerised transaction between business and personal bank. Once the computerised POS is programmed, then the vast majority of transactions, in or out, can be enabled. It’s how supermarkets deal with online shopping. I rejected two yoghurts and a bag of salad on our last delivery, (short dates). An hour later, the money was back in my bank account. Easy, peasy.
Site staff will have to have a few bits of paper and coins for any refuseniks😉
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As at present there are insufficient IT staff to keep the website going, how many more will be needed to keep the payments system going once the extra coding for deposits is added? Perhaps the whole thing will be handed over to PayPal . . . ?
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There are insufficient staff to keep the Sites going as well Nav. As yet, we have little idea of what the Club’s “Masterplan for the Future” is going to look like, but I am certain it will end up costing Members more, one way or another👍😂
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……We can but hope🙂
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Perhaps the new booking system should be codenamed “Pandora’s Box”🤔😆
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I am still waiting for any posts extolling meters from other than those who think it's a way of their personally paying less
AD, metering will focus minds on the amount of electricity they use and should, by making them realise how much it is costing them and thus showing them the damage excessive use is doing to the environment, ensure that they decrease the quantity they use....or at least I and OH hope so.
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As there has been no response from anyone at HO up to date to over 300 posts on the speculation of what's actually going to happen 're deposits etc, I think that those at EG are,laughing their cotton socks off these posts...that is if they even bother to read them!
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I think there have been some very good feed back in this and the other thread. I think the Club are probably more interested in the reaction to the idea of deposits rather the fact that deposits will be employed. As I have mentioned further up thread the introduction of deposits seems to be s done deal. Whatever eventually happens it is clear the the Club have identified a problem which can't be solved by current methods of booking so they are intending to put deposits in place, the other thing we don't know exactly is the finer detail.
David
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