C&CC closing sites

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  • SeasideBill
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    edited October 2021 #332

    You’re splitting hairs. A business would be very fortunate to survive a loss of more than a third of it’s revenue. I’m not sure what the Clubs fixed and other cost commitments (e.g leases) are, but I’d be surprised if it remained solvent without closures and sell-offs even assuming stable membership subscriptions which only account for 20% revenue. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #333

    Splitting hairs? Not I. You are attempting to drill down to the nitty gritty of a hypothetical situation. I've stated my opinion and that’s all there is to it.

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2021 #335

    I don’t think you are a problem😁 And I thank you for spending such vast sums of money down the years that has enabled the Club to upgrade its Sites, and to offer low prices during the Winter months. You are a credit to the Membership ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 

    Let’s hope the Club uses some of the profits to sort out its staffing issues now.👍

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2021 #337

    No, I was thanking you for what you contribute to the Club, that’s a heck of a spend over 20 years. A loyal Member, perhaps not for the Club Sites, but nevertheless others benefit, and you get peace of mind to do what you like to do.👍

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2021 #338

    That is because the club no longer does caravan insurance it can only sell its 'cover' to members therefore. Is this the case for motorhomes? I doubt it. 

    About Caravan Cover
    Caravan Cover is provided by The Caravan Club Limited.We collect contributions from
    members and use the contributions for the provision of services and other benefits to
    members.
    We offer cover on a discretionary basis which means that your Executive Committee
    has sole and absolute discretion on deciding claims and may accept or reject claims in
    its discretion. It also means that the Executive Committee may, in its discretion, agree
    a claim which falls outside the terms of the Caravan Cover, or which may even be
    expressly excluded, if the circumstances warrant it. The discretionary cover we provide
    is not a contract of insurance, and The Caravan Club Limited is not regulated as an
    insurance company.

     

     

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #339

    I have just checked our spend to the caravan club on sites alone not including this year, ,since 2009 when we started a new log the pitch fees have amounted to £34,239

    ,2021 will be about another £2500

    That does not include LV insurance or membership to 2019 

    We have enjoyed nearly. every trip out in our various LVs

     

     

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2021 #340

    I understand about the caravan “cover”, but check out the first paragraph of Motorhome Insurance on link. Again this cover only available to Members. You can of course apply direct to Devitts, although whether you would get the same rates and cover is debatable. They do of course do lots of other insurance, campervan, house, motorcycle, possibly pet. 

    https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/insurance/motorhome-insurance/motorhome-insurance-benefits/

    We don’t use CC for insurance, had a bad experience first time we tried to insure MH, so we look elsewhere now first.

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #341

    In the same way as it's possible for you and SB to be very rude.

  • SteveL
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    edited October 2021 #342

    We don’t use CC for insurance, had a bad experience first time we tried to insure MH, so we look elsewhere now first.

    We did as well, they wanted circa £1200.😂 Unsurprisingly we went elsewhere.

  • SeasideBill
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    edited October 2021 #343

    It’s always possible, but generally reserved for special occasions - nothing rude or personal in any of my posts on this thread. 

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2021 #344

    I am surprised at the need to be a Club member for regulated insurances

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #345

    They speak for themselves, SB. However, this is off topic.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2021 #346

    It’s possibly a special package ET. One that only paying £54 can get you. In the scale of things, most folks will make other use of their Membership, so that extra £54 can get you a lot more. The canny will use the Membership to access some of the special offers such as shop discounts, money back off a new Volvo, etc......

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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2021 #348

    I would guess circa 100, if club sites ?

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #349

    I have since arriving in North Norfolk had a look at what we have done so far this year including here, which is 167 site nights @ £4,597.80 with Five more club sites plus a commercial   

    We are now seriously considering cancelling some, if not all the rest of the club bookings not the commercial as there is no refund of fees,   

    Although we have again this year enjoyed our time in the c/van , apart from losing Rosa , we are both feeling tired

    As I now need to do the majority of setting up and breaking camp plus all the driving ,my age is catching up,, so next year, ,is really going to need a great deal of thought 

    And 2023 even more so 

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  • nelliethehooker
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    edited October 2021 #351

    By comparison we will have done 139 nights when we next move on, at a cost of £2035, so an average of £14:64 pn.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2021 #352

    Don’t forget that this year will have had quite a bit of VAT reduction as well on Club fees. It made quite a difference to our stays on Club Sites.

    You are both right about sharing to chores, does make life a lot easier👍

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited October 2021 #353

    I suppose if you decided to go to a static or a seasonal pitch you might actually save money? We have never spent that number of nights away in any one year, the most we have ever done is 121 and that probably included two trips to Europe in that year. It looks like a winter of careful thinking?

     

  • young thomas
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    edited October 2021 #354

    "I have since arriving in North Norfolk had a look at what we have done so far this year including here, which is 167 site nights @ £4,597.80 with Five more club sites plus a commercial"

    John...it's only 188 days since the release of lockdown on April 12th...

    if you've done 167 of those days, no wonder you're tired....

    we've been away a fair bit since April and have done just over 12weeks, about 90 days....which is about a 50/50 split....

    If you've done nearly twice that....perhaps continually touring is a little too much?

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #355

    OH is far safer in the caravan(she says)as she has less space and more places that are close to hold on to, the physio has also given her an exercise programme that has been modified for caravan use,, 

    As said to David we may have to curtail  some of our next bookings, except the commercial site, ,  which will then throw up a problem as it is our meet up with others that was cancelled last year and fits in with the club bookings we have ,which also have meetups with some of our Norfolk. friends and family,

     The bookings we still have from here take us to 19th Nov when we get home 

    Great Yarmouth   Norfolk Broads  Sandringham,  Hunstanton and then Back here before home bound

  • cyberyacht
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    edited October 2021 #356

    I've even managed to undercut Nellie. My average for this year is £13.12 per night. If I exclude the five "freebie nights" I did, my average is about the same as Nellie's. At the same number of pitch nights as JVB, that equates to a saving of around £2400. This year I've used 7 C&CC, 2 commercials and the rest have been CL's. That helps pay for the servicing,MOT, and, at some future date, a new set of boots for the van.

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  • GTP
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    edited October 2021 #358

    Depends on the destination and pitch type ET.......Yes for a standard pitch x 2 persons, 100 nights may well be for 2021 but not on the 'honeypot' sites or if you prefer a serviced pitch....the latter for whatever reason..eg Disability, or not wishing to go to MH service point.

    If you decide to pitch up at a 'honeypot' site on a service pitch this will be in the region of £45/50 pn x 2 persons in July... eg Knaresborough/Seacroft too name a couple. Even Cayton Village in November will cost you £28.50 pn 

    I did say in a post a couple of years ago that £50 would be the norm..but I believe I added that the pitches should be serviced. 

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2021 #359

    True but I had also forgotten about the vat reduction. 

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited October 2021 #361

    We have only been away for 35 nights so far this year from the end of May to last week and every month in between. Our nightly average so far is £22.22 a night which also takes into account the VAT reduction. Had it not been for a week at Northbrook Farm costing £14.50 a night the average would have been much higher. I am fully expecting next year that our pitch fees will range between £25/40 a night.

    David