C&CC closing sites

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #272

    Ah, the guy who bought his first caravan only a few short years ago. I'm sure he can tell us a lot about all sorts of things but he seemed a nice guy. He posted here when he bought it but you'll not remember as the name MikeyA was unknown here at that time.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2021 #273

    Hope you manage to sort something Brue. We are currently planning a trip. Club have made it easy for us, there are no Club Sites open in area we are off to, so no unwelcome surprises.

    You do have to take a deep breathe and wonder though. The largest touring network in the country, a multi million pound business, folks joining in droves this last year🤷‍♀️ There’s something not right somewhere with staffing. 🤔 Doesn’t help of course that you have to provide your own accommodation to work at most Sites, even if it is rent free. That cuts the recruitment pool significantly. 

  • brue
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    edited October 2021 #274

    Luckily we were OK TDA as time was on our side, just our luck that we'd planned an all club site trip just in case we had to cancel anything...but it obviously can work both ways! 

  • SteveL
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    edited October 2021 #275

    Does it really matter what others think. Surely it is more about what the individual likes or wants. In this country where booking is the norm, I am very happy with the sameness of both the CAMC and C&CC offerings. You know, more or less exactly what to expect and although there are a few places we wouldn’t go back to, that wasn’t down to the quality of the sites. Over there where we don’t have to pre book, we are more flexible. If we don’t like the look of it, we move on.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #276

    My thoughts too, Steve. Why would anyone care about another's view of sites is when all that matters is whether we're happy with them? And an awful lot of people seem to be.

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  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #278

    That is it seems why cc sites are so popular,     they are of a known quality.   ,like good big hotel chains ,we like thousands of others tend to use ie Premier inn , as there is never a thought, I wonder what its like,cool 

    They are a destination not a Butlins

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2021 #279

    so have I, was it about site closures or which definitions are correct? smile

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2021 #280

    But... it has to be pointed out that despite all the choices out there, CLs, non club sites that are far better in design and cheaper, sites that have all the attributes that you like, despite all your posts about club sites being costly and basic in their offering (again when other non club sites have so much more),  you chose club sites that according to you are run on a shoestring.

    And not only that, you chose one of the most expensive sites on the network.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2021 #281

    I'm intrigued as to why the Trudgians have suddenly become the go-to font of knowledge for some posters for all things caravanning and sites and what they say must be correct?

    As said upthread they appear nice but it is a youtuber with not as much experience as most on here and while they may be good for technical aspects their views on sites and just that - their views.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2021 #282

     The youtube video is a man giving his opinion. Why would he lie about his opinion?

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #283

    Before LVs in this country really started to get so popular, it was the same as over the channel is at times now, (do not like what you see move on) in this country, especially at peak times we are now in the situation do I chance trying to find somewhere else in this area that we  want to be

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2021 #284

    Oh and K, that includes 11 in Scotland which apart from one all had good play areas, in fact two had some of the best we've seen. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2021 #285

    Think you need to re-read my post (and subsequent ones)  there ET, I did indeed say it was his opinion but Burt appears to suggest it must be the a fact.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #287

    That's not really huge in YouTube terms, David.

    No matter how good the quality of his productions, it's still only his take on things and counts for little. Many of us choose club sites because they suit us, you included, and we don't need someone else to verify, or otherwise, our choices. That's why I'm surprised we were recommended to watch to obtain the supposedly true picture of club sites.

  • RowenaBCAMC
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    edited October 2021 #288

    A number of posts in this discussion have gone off topic and it seems to have turned into disagreements. Please can I remind you all of the community guidelines and make the forum a constructive and friendly place to be. Many thanks. 

  • Navigateur
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    edited October 2021 #289

    But the thread is not closed . . . .?

  • RowenaBCAMC
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    edited October 2021 #290

    We can keep the discussion open if we can get it back on track but will close it if arguments continue. 

  • ADP1963
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    edited October 2021 #291

    sealed

  • cyberyacht
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    edited October 2021 #292

    Back in the mists of antiquity ( Page 27 actually), Corners provided a couple of photos for comparison between a club site (presumably Durham Grange) and a CL - Baxter Wood Farm.

    Leaving aside the obvious price advantage of £7.50 per night, the CL is, as Corners admitted, within walking distance of the centre of Durham. The CAMC site is three miles away and right next to a busy motorway junction. Apart from the absence of HGVs and, obviously Joe Public, Durham Grange would appear to have all the surrounding ambience of a motorway service area. So you know which I chose when stopping at Durham earlier this year. Ambience, the CL had it in spades.

    Not entirely sure what any of this has to do with C&CC site closures due to staffing.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #293

    We see in another thread that a few CAMC sites are closing due to staff shortages. I wonder if many of us would work on those sites as volunteer wardens to keep them open if the call went out?

    Personally, I think I'd want firm assurance of prompt back up from HQ to deal with problems arising before I'd contemplate doing it.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited October 2021 #294

    But where would you live?  

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2021 #295

    I know what I would do. I’d suggest some of the folks who work at HQ give it a go, a lot of them have outfits. They could show true willing and keep the cash rolling in, not let down the punters. Existing Wardens could give them a hand, make sure they are doing it right😇😁 It’s always good to get on the job experience, puts dealing with complaints (staff and visitors) into perspective. 

    And before anyone asks, yes it was something I used to do back in another life, hard work at times, great fun at times, but the experience was priceless👍

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #296

    Where would any warden live? I think you forget that wardens do have some private facilities attached to the office. They don’t live totally in their LV. Obviously anyone not wishing to do that wouldn’t take on the role.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2021 #297

    Great idea, TDA. It would give HQ staff experience at the sharp end plus help the club get through this patch.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2021 #298

    Actually it was Troutbeck Head in the lakes. You don't get mountains like that in Durham. 

    I didn't talk about location at all, only to illustrate that club sites are not in any way like the car parks that posters are saying, the car parks I use don't look at all like that.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2021 #299

    yes I did that too, Every year the senior staff would help out in various support roles. I remember I did a shift for a week on serving meals at dinner time, along with other senior staff doing other jobs, it made us realise what the true problems were and what solutions would work. I looked (I am told) quite good in white overalls and white trilby style hat.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #300

    Your post about HO staff  they already do work experiance on some sites., and according to the on site regular staff   it is far from a good experiance when they are thereundecided

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2021 #301

    As per diinner ladies with Victoria Woodsurprised