Inconsiderate motor home owners

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  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,636
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    edited August 2021 #32

    Did you report the incident to the wardens, as they would have know who the culprit was and perhaps been able to get those at HO to inform those responsible of the correct procedure or sanction them in some way?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2021 #33

    I know ... but as Dave K says, the exceptions to the rule are usually very well signed. I know about aerobic & none aerobic bacteria etc 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2021 #34

    ….And they would need to disinfect the service point.

  • peedee
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    edited August 2021 #35

    I also see no reason other than faulty toilets why public loos block up just because some chose to empty their cassettes down the pan. I have also had no issue emptying the cassette at home down the toilet pan.. I am guessing that it could be possible that the culprits might not be using any chemicals of any sort in the cassette? As a result the solids are not broken down and they are not ending up with a soupy liquid  Large ammounts of solids might well cause problems?

    Its quite common on CLs to find the CDP constitutes a flushing toilet.

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  • young thomas
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    edited August 2021 #36

    ...and the other side of the coin is that MHers get 'slated' for using chemicals 'down a loo'...

    i use bio pods, and like others, sometimes empty at home depending on where we have come from....no problem at all.

    ive camped all over Europe (on full fat 5* sites to wild camping spots) for more than 10 years and have yet to see one of these 'horror situations' that so many (usually seems to be caravanners??) come across with such regularity...

    some folk do take two cassettes to eke out the period between emptying, been going on for years...

    As long as what goes in a loo is what usually goes there, what's the 'issue' (see what did there?wink)

  • LLM
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    edited August 2021 #37

    The simple answer is to install MH service points.  Because of the toilets the fresh water and drainage is already in place and a reasonable charge could be made for the service.  A much better solution than all the moaning, nastiness and NIMBY attitude.  There are already some around in the UK and they seem to work well on the continent and elsewhere.  

  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2021 #38

    Indeed. There is some kind of motorhome service point at Lytham St Annes on a public car park by the pier for exactly this ..... It seemed to be well used by MHs while we were there (using the car park)

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2021 #41

    I think I have posted before about the mess caused by a motor caravan user "attempting" to empty a cassette in the male toilet pan at Whitby P&Rfrown

  • LLM
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    edited August 2021 #42

    There are always a few who will take advantage regardless of where you are and in which country, but is that really a reason for not doing something or providing a service; I think not. But, I'm certain it will normally be used as an excuse by those that just want to complain and moan regardless, and there are plenty of those about.  At least those that walk in with their cassette have the correct place to dump their waste and are using it.

     

  • LLM
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    edited August 2021 #43

    Really? What were you doing, inspecting the John John? laughing

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2021 #44

     if some chemicals were not permitted to flushed in the ccep then there notice of this!!!!!   and as for flushing even if the flush is not working there would be a tap that would be working and as the site  staff nearly always clean and check the cceps every day

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2021 #45

    I don't understand why cassette contents should cause a blockage

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2021 #46

    Where we are now they have yet again had a very expensive call out to contractors as the effluent pumps have yet again been blocked by "flushable?" toilet wipes ,causing the system alarms to activate and to back up yell

    A toilet cassette will have more than one "Sitting ?"when it is emptied into a domestic toilet pan surprisedfrown

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2021 #47

    Indeed but as the solids are broken down (or should be) I have never encountered a problem

  • Fisherman
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    edited August 2021 #48

    Damn in the old days you dug a hole and tipped it out and covered it up. Unthinkable in todays aseptic days.

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2021 #49

    I certainly not saying don’t provide the facilities. It would be very nice to have a chargeable Aire network like France. However, there main use will be by the likes of myself, who would otherwise be using a campsite, or perhaps CL and find them conveniently located for something we wanted to visit. I just don’t see it attracting the current wild camping fraternity, who want something for nothing. Yes by walking in they may be emptying their cassette in an appropriate place, but just like using public toilets, rate payers or Aire users are picking up the tab. Many Aires are well away from habitation and are unlikely to be connected to a sewer.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited August 2021 #50

    I have only ever emptied a cassette once in all our decades of touring. My body is genetically programmed to boff up at a CDP point, so in the interests of all concerned, it’s a task that never gets delegated my way.😁🤢

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2021 #51

    Off topic but my OH is sick looking at blood and I am sick if I smell sick. Works out quite well really bringing up the kids.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited August 2021 #52

    I don't think we are talking about people using Club site toilets to empty a chemical toilet. Why would anyone? I was just illustrating that often you find the flush in public toilets and on Club sites quite poor so if a public toilet was used and left in a mess it could be down to a non functioning flush, by then of course its too late!!! Near most public toilets there will be inspection covers. If these are light enough to lift all a local council has to do is to paint something on that cover. The system still works on many club sites. As much as people complain and throw up their arms in disgust there are often simple solutions that can overcome these issues. 

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2021 #53

    It did not need Inspecting as it was across the floor from the cublcle undecided

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2021 #54

    I have only ever found a "poor flush" on toilets if the water pressure is low or at busy times when roof tanks are low, but a second flush  normally clears any remainssurprised

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2021 #55

     inspection covers near any public access motor caravan points should not be able to be lifted by other than staff ?as they could be deepsurprised

  • GTrimmer
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    edited August 2021 #56

    There are apparently (perhaps unsurprisingly) some who seek to defend the anti social actions highlighted in the article in my OP.

    Could it be that they are behaving in such ways themselves ?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2021 #58

    the poor flush is nothing to do with water pressure .... the pressure just determines how long it takes the cistern to fill.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2021 #59

    +1.

    The problem might be is that the minority are the ones being reported on in the press and therefore affecting a wider public view on all, out of all proportion to their number?

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2021 #60

    It is if you are waiting cool

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2021 #61

    Really? Who's defending the anti social actions? I seem to have missed those posts.